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| Promotion and relegation isn't working but Leigh really were up against the it before a ball was even kicked.
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"Hang on - several club chairmen applied to get that SL place so why single out Mr. Beaumont?
That spare place in Superleague attracted a string of chairmen including some whose teams had even less chance of survival than Leigh.....
"Ego" doesn't seem to have anything to do with it. Several chairmen saw it as a good move. The question is Why??'"
Add those in as well, the only possible reason I can think anyone would have gone for this was either, misplaced hope of being competitive or a belief promotion / relegation would be scrapped.
The sensible move was to hold back, fund this year's squad and push for promotion. Leigh along with the others had virtually no chance of competing this year with the hand they've been dealt.
This year could push leigh back 3 years in reality
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| Quote Budgiezilla="Budgiezilla"We know you have an obsession with Leigh Centurions, but surely this question can only be answered at the end of the season, but you already knew that, eh ?
If we don't win one game, then most definitely.'"
I can still see Degsy doing celebratory forward rolls in-front of the Leigh players when the announcement came though of Leighs successful 500 page bid! I suspect (Listening to his rant at the weekend) that he's now wishing he had sent a blank piece of paper to the RFL.
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| Quote wire-quin="wire-quin"I can still see Degsy doing celebratory forward rolls in-front of the Leigh players when the announcement came though of Leighs successful 500 page bid! I suspect (Listening to his rant at the weekend) that he's now wishing he had sent a blank piece of paper to the RFL.'"
I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Elstone was the biggest Champion of having Leigh in Super League. As a business man Degsy should have seen the pit full's of going into Super League under the conditions that they did. Also as well there are rumours going around that some Leigh players have already been tapped up by some other clubs for next season.
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| Quote wire-quin="wire-quin"I can still see Degsy doing celebratory forward rolls in-front of the Leigh players when the announcement came though of Leighs successful 500 page bid! I suspect [u(Listening to his rant at the weekend)[/u that he's now wishing he had sent a blank piece of paper to the RFL.'"
Which will now mean more fans saying F*** It
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| Quote Cokey="Cokey"Which will now mean more fans saying F*** It'"
What did he say?
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| Quote RagingBull="RagingBull"What did he say?'"
I know I'm fuelling your fire, but this is the crux of it.  That was Beaumont's response after some Leigh supporters posted on social media, accusing him of 'sticking 2 fingers up' at the Leigh fans in the north stand, because some of them booed the team off at half time. So it looks like the allegations were true.
"I shall not be in here to read the responses to this but I am going to defend my players coach and staff. To suggest they do not care and have no effort is an absolute disgrace. The people who boo please do not come if you have a season ticket and want a refund let me know by contacting the ticket office with your details and I will personally come and swap it with you for cash. You are not a supporter of our club. People need support when they are at their lowest ebb not when they are succeeding. To those who say we should buy players please tell me which supermarket I may go and buy them from and I will pop in and pick them up. You don’t see the hard work and individual detail put in by everyone. We will succeed because we stick together and keep being the best version of what we can be as that is ultimately all we can do. I know that will be enough and the real supporters of our club will do the same and those that aren’t we care not for".
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| Quote Budgiezilla="Budgiezilla"I know I'm fuelling your fire, but this is the crux of it.
That was Beaumont's response after some Leigh supporters posted on social media, accusing him of 'sticking 2 fingers up' at the Leigh fans in the north stand, because some of them booed the team off at half time. So it looks like the allegations were true.
"I shall not be in here to read the responses to this but I am going to defend my players coach and staff. To suggest they do not care and have no effort is an absolute disgrace. The people who boo please do not come if you have a season ticket and want a refund let me know by contacting the ticket office with your details and I will personally come and swap it with you for cash. You are not a supporter of our club. People need support when they are at their lowest ebb not when they are succeeding. To those who say we should buy players please tell me which supermarket I may go and buy them from and I will pop in and pick them up. You don’t see the hard work and individual detail put in by everyone. We will succeed because we stick together and keep being the best version of what we can be as that is ultimately all we can do. I know that will be enough and the real supporters of our club will do the same and those that aren’t we care not for".'"
I kinda agree with him - but the leaving,by mutual consent,of a # Super League Ready head coach,recently,makes the statement slightly disingenuous.
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| Quote barham red="barham red"Add those in as well, the only possible reason I can think anyone would have gone for this was either a misplaced hope of being competitive or a belief promotion / relegation would be scrapped. The sensible move was to hold back, fund this year's squad and push for promotion. Leigh along with the others had virtually no chance of competing this year with the hand they've been dealt. This year could push leigh back 3 years in reality....
It's not just Leigh though. Several clubs apparently had a misplaced hope of being competitive..........
Do we think York, London or Bradford could have been more competitive than Leigh?? But as it stands they could all have been open to even bigger hammerings than Leigh are getting right now. Perhaps Superleague don't care as long as someone fills the gap. IIRC back around 2014 London came bottom of SL and shipped in over 1200 points across regular batterings. They didn't beat anyone other than a Leeds reserve side.
So you offer a possible reason that maybe P & R is going to be off the agenda? I suppose that fits with the possibility that Superleague will change things 2022 when the new SKY deal comes in. Some time ago I recall Lenegan & co talking about not having P & R every year, but every other year to give clubs a chance to build in Superleague, rather than the poisoned chalice of straight back down.
But nothings been said on that. The only other thought I have is the future of Salford, with their risk that they will have no ground next year? It's not a nice thought but if Salford fail does Beaumont move in on their players? Intriguing.....
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| Quote Budgiezilla="Budgiezilla"
" People need support when they are at their lowest ebb not when they are succeeding. To those who say we should buy players please tell me which supermarket I may go and buy them from and I will pop in and pick them up. You don’t see the hard work and individual detail put in by everyone. We will succeed because we stick together and keep being the best version of what we can be as that is ultimately all we can do. I know that will be enough and the real supporters of our club will do the same".'"
The reply to fans Beaumont makes about him not being able to buy players who are not there is in a way fair enough.........
But if he is open to such questioning then the real question that should be asked of him is why, when there were no players to buy, and when it was inevitable that Leigh would struggle badly, did so many clubs grab at this chance Not just Leigh, some of whom would probably be getting even bigger hammerings than Leigh are getting now.
Half a dozen clubs clamoured for a season of slaughter in Superleague..........
Why??
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"The reply to fans Beaumont makes about him not being able to buy players who are not there is in a way fair enough.........
But if he is open to such questioning then the real question that should be asked of him is why, when there were no players to buy, and when it was inevitable that Leigh would struggle badly, did so many clubs grab at this chance Not just Leigh, some of whom would probably be getting even bigger hammerings than Leigh are getting now.
Half a dozen clubs clamoured for a season of slaughter in Superleague..........
Why??'"
To show willingness. While many people thought this 'promotion' was a poisoned chalice,(with SL looking for a patsy club to relegate to protect the vested interests of the established SL teams, in reasons financial and time-based), if the clubs HADN'T gone for it then they would have been accused of not aiming for the top.
I think Leigh or Toulouse were the best-placed clubs to take this SL place; but nevertheless, they would both have been on a hiding to nothing. The timing and stipulations of the promotion made that clear.
I could see it knackering Bradford finally if we had got the nod, something which so many wise sages on here foresaw. I'm glad these soothsayers were wrong.
But I hope it doesn't knacker Leigh. We need more vibrant teams, more competition, not less. Rigging the promotion to protect the status-quo does the sport no good at all.
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