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Quote: atomic "I played for nowt, Love of sport when I was a kid. Maybe that’s what the sport is missing. You start RL well before earning a wage. You breed the players they just don’t suddenly appear.

That’s always from a community club, not academies. Who have already taken from the community.

The best players I have seen have come from the heartland community clubs. Some don’t and will never understand that.'"


Well yes of course but it's once players become professional and this is there job.

Should a player playing first grade be earning amounts like £20k a year?

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Quote: Clearwing "

Yes fair play You are right McManus voted for but Lenegan did not vote for.

Nor did Hudgell, Pearson, Koukash, Davey and Moran. Les Catalans as guests did not vote.

The vote on the SKY deal was split 7-6 for, as Martyn Sadler reported on January 20th. 2014.

Sadler explained that once the vote had been taken and the clubs were split, the protocol was for the losers to concede to the majority and a second vote was taken so a unanimous result and a united front could be shown shown to the world.

But on the second vote Koukash still voted against. As the seasons passed by McManus started to associate more with the six "rebels" who have spent seven years looking to wrest all control of the Superleague from the RFL. Their time has come now which is clear from the fact Lenegan & co negotiated the next TV deal for themselves and Ralph Rimmer was left in the cold...........

What we see now is Lenegan and McManus looking to wrest control of P & R from the RFL.

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Quote: orangeman "The Problem with the game is that it doesn't know what it wants.

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That is the problem faced by Super League and the game in general. After a quarter of a Century of chopping and changing, the game doesn't know what it is, where it should be played or what it wants.

If it's happy not to expand, then keep P&R and hope that the monotony of the same teams winning is alleviated by the excitement of relegation, but the reality is that Featherstone replacing Wakefield won't garner the same headlines as Catalans winning the challenge cup.'"


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Quote: Trainman "rU took off after England won the World Cup..'"

URBAN MYTH #365.
Twickenham capacity was 72,000 in 2002. They filled it 2 times that year and 3 times the following year before heading to Australia for the RUWC.

Decades of FTA coverage on the BBC for games like Ireland v Wales, or Scotland v France built a "must see" attitude to the 5 and then 6 nations. Italy v France in Union on BBC2 now gets a comparable TV audience to England v Australia in League.

REGULAR GAMES.....in FTA TV, with buy-in from the broadcaster over decades is what we will never get, so stop hanging your hat on internationals as the saviour. With only three viable teams, it's a non starter.

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Quote: atomic "I’m unsure how you drop 2 from SL1. '"


Well the top SL bosses have championed 2x10 so I assume they will organise who is to be "dropped".

Obvious way they may do this is, is to repeat how they chose the clubs for licensing. Work out criteria that gives them the result they want, stuff like "being an English club" is a required criteria,

I also have an idea that whatever criteria they choose Leigh may somehow fit it.....Or maybe even Bradford? They could bring in Nigel Wood to help with the process as he did this before? Do Salford have any money?

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Quote: Donnyman "Well the top SL bosses have championed 2x10 so I assume they will organise who is to be "dropped".

Obvious way they may do this is, is to repeat how they chose the clubs for licensing. Work out criteria that gives them the result they want, stuff like "being an English club" is a required criteria,

I also have an idea that whatever criteria they choose Leigh may somehow fit it.....Or maybe even Bradford? They could bring in Nigel Wood to help with the process as he did this before? Do Salford have any money?'"



Is it the Super League club owners organising the restructure - or is it Sky demanding changes?
Which ' independent ' panel has the jurisdiction?
Will a video and a report have to be furnished?

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Quote: Donnyman "Well the top SL bosses have championed 2x10 so I assume they will organise who is to be "dropped".

Obvious way they may do this is, is to repeat how they chose the clubs for licensing. Work out criteria that gives them the result they want, stuff like "being an English club" is a required criteria,

I also have an idea that whatever criteria they choose Leigh may somehow fit it.....Or maybe even Bradford? They could bring in Nigel Wood to help with the process as he did this before? Do Salford have any money?'"


Criteria lol. They make it up as they go along

Remember the criteria regarding stadiums and what a joke that become when they just ignored it and 10 years later still no stadiums for certain clubs.

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Quote: orangeman "Your average British person when asked, wouldn't be able to find Huddersfield, Salford, Wakefield, Featherstone or Leigh on a map, let alone know that Hull has not 1 but 2 Rugby League teams.'"

I dare say they wouldn't know where Wigan, Warrington or St Helens were either. Is that not the issue with image too when the top clubs come from small towns?

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Quote: Ornery Optimist "Is it the Super League club owners organising the restructure - or is it Sky demanding changes?
Which ' independent ' panel has the jurisdiction?
Will a video and a report have to be furnished?'"


Doubt it's sky when the deal is only for 2 years.

A competition where teams are playing each other multiple times I don't think is good for any broadcaster.

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Quote: ColD "Does RU have a full time second tier ?? Be surprised if it does'"


The eleven-side league was known as National Division One and in 2009 changed from semi-professional clubs to fully professional.

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Quote: orangeman "URBAN MYTH #365.
Twickenham capacity was 72,000 in 2002. They filled it 2 times that year and 3 times the following year before heading to Australia for the RUWC.

Decades of FTA coverage on the BBC for games like Ireland v Wales, or Scotland v France built a "must see" attitude to the 5 and then 6 nations. Italy v France in Union on BBC2 now gets a comparable TV audience to England v Australia in League.

REGULAR GAMES.....in FTA TV, with buy-in from the broadcaster over decades is what we will never get, so stop hanging your hat on internationals as the saviour. With only three viable teams, it's a non starter.'"


So the established international game, that was exactly my point. They may have filled Twickenham on a regular basis but casual and TV viewers most certainly increased following the World Cup win.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Doubt it's sky when the deal is only for 2 years.

A competition where teams are playing each other multiple times I don't think is good for any broadcaster.'"



So does the 2 year deal indicate that it is the last one Sky are offering?

Will the sport now have to find another willing,paying, broadcaster?

Will any restructure in rugby league last beyond 2 years?

Seem to be in a difficult situation with a World Cup fast approaching.

I hope plans are in place to welcome any new enthusiasts that may be found this year...

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Don't know why people think going to 10 will be the savior of rl? Surely getting rid of clubs lowers attendances. Do people want to see the same match 3 times a season? People will maybe only pick 1. The quality argument doesn't stand either. Less teams equals less players equals less quality. If its money then the clubs need to look at how they can make themselves more money.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Doubt it's sky when the deal is only for 2 years.

A competition where teams are playing each other multiple times I don't think is good for any broadcaster.'"


You just stated remembering how licensing failed. Those actions costs clubs, and still those clubs haven’t fulfilled their obligations. Yet as you say get away scot free, whilst others feed them.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Criteria lol. They make it up as they go along

Remember the criteria regarding stadiums and what a joke that become when they just ignored it and 10 years later still no stadiums for certain clubs.'"


Good points....

But 10 years ago the license application for Wakey was greeted by the RFL with the words [i"the stadium position is uncertain"[/i and for Cas [i"growth is reliant on a new stadium"[/i

Before that the RFL stupidly indicated that if Cas and Wakey wanted to be in Superleague they needed to find new stadiums, however they could not do this and the RFL suddenly realised they had nobody better to replace these clubs, to carry out the threat, and that was the real joke.

The RFL thought that somehow there were new clubs with money facilities and ambition ready to take these two clubs places....

There wasn't.

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