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Quote: wrencat1873 "It does make you wonder whether too much is being asked of the players.
More and more games and the international program or World cup, at the end of each season, meaning a very short off season for so many players.
It's no wonder that so many are busted
It's certainly time for the Easter fixtures to be changed but, I'm sure that we'll get back to that one nearer the time.

It does seem that more and more clubs are getting more and more injuries'"

Yes you are right but and I know it’s been said before but did the players years ago not work and play rugby league and more games then now so maybe it’s the speed and training that’s to blame it should be looked at to see

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Quote: wrencat1873 "It does make you wonder whether too much is being asked of the players.
More and more games and the international program or World cup, at the end of each season, meaning a very short off season for so many players.
It's no wonder that so many are busted
It's certainly time for the Easter fixtures to be changed but, I'm sure that we'll get back to that one nearer the time.

It does seem that more and more clubs are getting more and more injuries'"


Exactly what the reserve teams are for. Rotation.

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Quote: Someday "Yes you are right but and I know it’s been said before but did the players years ago not work and play rugby league and more games then now so maybe it’s the speed and training that’s to blame it should be looked at to see'"


To be fair, I just think that the game is quicker and more physical and with the higher number of rotations/ substitutions in the game, it's just unrelenting.
Back in the day, it was a tough sport but, the gain line was 6 yards away and not 10 metres and although players can run from deep (regardless of how far the defensive line is set), there is absolutely no doubt that, generally, players are bigger, faster, stronger and the game much, much quicker - notwithstanding the wrestling and laying on that didn't exist all those years ago.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "It does make you wonder whether too much is being asked of the players.
More and more games and the international program or World cup, at the end of each season, meaning a very short off season for so many players.
It's no wonder that so many are busted
It's certainly time for the Easter fixtures to be changed but, I'm sure that we'll get back to that one nearer the time.

It does seem that more and more clubs are getting more and more injuries'"

Easter fixtures have changed haven't they?

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Quote: cas all the way "Easter fixtures have changed haven't they?'"


About time as well but, the point still stands, the game is so much quicker.
When I first started watching seriously in the late 80's Fev had a huge prop, Brendan Hill, who I believe was 18-19 stone.
If you compare his physique to that of Walmsley or Hill or perhaps the Burges boy's, you can see the difference in fitness instantly.

Back then,a typical centre was 12/13 stone but nowadays, they will be 14 1/2 - 15 stone.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "About time as well but, the point still stands, the game is so much quicker.
When I first started watching seriously in the late 80's Fev had a huge prop, Brendan Hill, who I believe was 18-19 stone.
If you compare his physique to that of Walmsley or Hill or perhaps the Burges boy's, you can see the difference in fitness instantly.

Back then,a typical centre was 12/13 stone but nowadays, they will be 14 1/2 - 15 stone.'"


And the rest! Absolutely filthy as well. One of the last of his kind thank god. I saw him towards the end of his career on a sloped pitch, they played him downhill but sensibly didn't bring him out for the second half.

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Did Brendan Hill play for Featherstone?

I remember him at Bradford, Halifax and latterly Keighley.

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Quote: Wanderer "Did Brendan Hill play for Featherstone?

I remember him at Bradford, Halifax and latterly Keighley.'"


No he didn't but there were plenty of fat 20 plus stone props in the 80s and 90s.

Maybe getting mixed with Jeff Grayshon?

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Quote: Snowy "No he didn't but there were plenty of fat 20 plus stone props in the 80s and 90s.

Maybe getting mixed with Jeff Grayshon?'"


Although Grayshon (and many other of those big blokes) had more ball playing skills than the vast majority of today's halfbacks....

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Quote: Snowy "No he didn't but there were plenty of fat 20 plus stone props in the 80s and 90s.

Maybe getting mixed with Jeff Grayshon?'"


Jeff Grayshon had a long career at the top as a top class muscular International forward, his son entered the game but didn't quite have the muscular physique of his dad and was more a Brendan Hill shape. Ian Van Bellen was a large barrrel of a man. His son Gary didn't quite do as well.

Somehow Number 8's were of a kind, huge but immobile. Les Tonks was another one at Fev. I never got what he brought to the team....

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Quote: Donnyman "Jeff Grayshon had a long career at the top as a top class muscular International forward, his son entered the game but didn't quite have the muscular physique of his dad and was more a Brendan Hill shape. Ian Van Bellen was a large barrrel of a man. His son Gary didn't quite do as well.

Somehow Number 8's were of a kind, huge but immobile. Les Tonks was another one at Fev. I never got what he brought to the team....'"

When Les played at Wakefield the in joke was how many shirts he would get through in the season, many a time players would end up ripping the shirt of his back due not being able get a good hold on him, what he did bring to the game is weight in the contested scrum and a virtually unstoppable lump on the attacking line, it did come at a cost as he was slow and struggled to keep up with play similar to pauli at the beginning of last season who came back from the break in worst condition for a professional modern rugby player

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Quote: Wanderer "Did Brendan Hill play for Featherstone?

I remember him at Bradford, Halifax and latterly Keighley.'"


Quite right, my mistake icon_surprised.gifops:
He was akin to the bad guy in wrestling, like Giant Haystacks, the pantomime villian.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "I think it's because Hull FC, under Radford, are far too inconsistent. Massive defeats, massive victories and everything else in between. Whilst you can win a cup competition in this way, you can't expect to finish high enough in a league format to have a good tilt at winning a Grand Final.
Under Powell, Cas are pretty consistent. Cas don't ever seem to go on a 'bad run' and lose a string of games like Hull do (eleven loses in a row at the end of 2018, and one win from the last 7 games of the season in 2019). Runs like that suggest Radford cannot turn around a losing team, at least not until the following season! Compare that to Cas, who in the last three seasons have never lost more than two league games in a row, and I think you see one reason why people question Radford more than Powell as a coach.
Radford cannot get his team playing consistently, and he can't turn things around when the team is under-performing. Powell can, and it's why Cas have been in the play-offs consistently whilst Hull have not. And that consistency is also why Cas have finished above Hull for five of the six seasons the two coaches have been at their respective clubs. So to answer your question, that record is why people mention Radford as the reason Hull might not do as well as expected, whilst not many think the same about Powell.'"


And so it comes to pass. The inability of Radford to halt a turn around poor performances costs him a job. It all started so well in round one, but he simply doesn’t know what to do when his team loses a game.

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Quote: Donnyman "Jeff Grayshon had a long career at the top as a top class muscular International forward, his son entered the game but didn't quite have the muscular physique of his dad and was more a Brendan Hill shape. Ian Van Bellen was a large barrrel of a man. His son Gary didn't quite do as well.

Somehow Number 8's were of a kind, huge but immobile. Les Tonks was another one at Fev. I never got what he brought to the team....'"


Dave chisnall was another , sidestep like brett kenny, throw a dummy like thurston and a belly like jocky wilson but a great player

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Quote: Redvee69 "Dave chisnall was another , sidestep like brett kenny, throw a dummy like thurston and a belly like jocky wilson but a great player'"

Very light on his feet was Dave.

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