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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: joultram "You may be right in what you say bramleyrhino, but we will never know unless someone tries. Championship RL might ever only be a 'filler' program rather than directly a subscription generator but there are plently of new, and old, sports platforms out there who, I believe, will pay for such fillers.

By the way, a number of the programs that Championship RL beat were live RU games.'"


We have tried it with Premier Sports. I don't know how many subs it generated, but their ability or willingness to pay for Championship access was evidently less that Sky's. Whether Premier decided that the business case didn't stack up or whether the RFL took Sky's dollar, I don't know.

But we can't assume that the appeal of Championship and L1 RL is greater than it is. On several weeks, number of people willing to pay to watch the Championship and League One live in total can be less than the attendance at just one Super League ground.

If the Championship can't be a subscription seller, then it needs to be an advertising puller, and RL fails miserably on that count. If we genuinely want to make RL more attractive to TV, then we need to stop the blame game and the finger pointing and instead talk about how we make the sport more attractive than it is. We are not going to get an enhanced TV deal without offering Sky, BT or anyone else some added value.

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Quote: ricardo07 "Just announced that they are showing live the autumn RU internationals for which country......IRELAND.

Can't the powers that be make some protest. They should be supporting British sport as that is the country in which they earn their revenue.

Why can't they be persuaded to broadcast our own Rugby League Championship rather covering a foreign team.

Over to you Brian Barwick, earn your money, please.'"


Yet you're quite happy for NRL to be broadcast in the UK? Surely SKY should be showing Wath Brow v Siddal as that is British Sport in a Country in which they earn their revenue?

Have you ever stopped to think that a few hundred thousand, if not million people would prefer to watch Rugby Union and not Rugby League? Therefore Channel 4 are showing a product people actually want to watch. Or do you think they just sit there and think 'what shall we bang out in Autumn, tell you what forget what 90% of the UK perceive to be the better code of Rugby we will show West Wales against Coventry because some bloke in Halifax likes Rugby League'

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Quote: Joff "Again again and again I have to keep saying this! RL has a serious image problem! No corporation wants to associate with a sport that has it's 'image' like that based on the TV dramas like the Royle Family, Shameless and Benidorm! Sorry, but that is how they see the game. Tacky, cheap and common. Open your fr*cking eyes.
Union has the image. Before any uneducated troll accuses me of being a union troll, he needs to think again. I can't stand rah rah but they are bl*dy good at marketing their sport and have done pretty well for the past 30 years!
RL in the UK has FAILED to expand it's demographic!
The attitide of the flat capper is

Nailed it.

My Southern Football or Rugby Union customers laugh at me when I invite them to RL games, even Wembley or the Grand Final. They would not make the effort to cross the road to watch a game with full hospitality and free booze. Apart from Adrian Durham not one person I know at talksport will attend a game, again that includes full hospitality at Wembley, somewhere most of them go to for any Soccer game they can get into and fill their faces for free.

Rugby League is about as far from being accepted in the South (anywhere past Doncaster) Scotland, Wales and Ireland as it has ever been. It is because of a decade of mis-management whilst some fat got rich and clubs went to the wall.

It is actually heartbreaking to see.

And the answer.......'ring Eddie Hearn' icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Lebron James "Who would buy the rights to the championship? Any broadcaster would rather sell adverts to an audience of 100, ergo rugby unions fans than to an audience of 1000 fans, ergo rugby league fans who have no money (except toyboy29 who owns a jag of course)

Regards

King James'"


Why have you brought me into your petty ramblings.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: kobashi "FTA coverage of rugby league
So..... To counter what said about union being on BBC, ITV, C4 and C4....... You've come up with the BBC.....who this year will have shown 8 games.

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Quote: MonkeyLover "Nailed it.

My Southern Football or Rugby Union customers laugh at me when I invite them to RL games, even Wembley or the Grand Final. They would not make the effort to cross the road to watch a game with full hospitality and free booze. Apart from Adrian Durham not one person I know at talksport will attend a game, again that includes full hospitality at Wembley, somewhere most of them go to for any Soccer game they can get into and fill their faces for free.

Rugby League is about as far from being accepted in the South (anywhere past Doncaster) Scotland, Wales and Ireland as it has ever been. It is because of a decade of mis-management whilst some fat nice person got rich and clubs went to the wall.

It is actually heartbreaking to see.

And the answer.......'ring Eddie Hearn'
The post Richard Lewis era is to blame. Nigel Wood and his 'bottom feeder' mentality diluting the standards.

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Are the bbc, or any channel, going to show the England Knights v PNG games?

They have the potential to a great spectacle in front of packed stadiums with passionate supporters.

A documentary on the tour of PNG would be good too.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Are the bbc, or any channel, going to show the England Knights v PNG games?

They have the potential to a great spectacle in front of packed stadiums with passionate supporters.

A documentary on the tour of PNG would be good too.'"

Do you really need that answering?

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I watched the Lock Lane game on the free sports channel the other day. It was well produced and with a good standard of rugby but the viewing figures will have been in the hundreds. We should be actively seeking to partner with companies who will show our product and build our profile. Developing events like the Skolars versus Wigan might be one way to go. Every time someone types rugby into a computer they should get Super League adverts rather than Union ones.
I have posted before that we need to associate glamour with our game. What about a series of nines competitions in colourful locations. If Union can sell competitions , utilising second string players, like the sevens and the LV cup then there may be a market for us.
If any of you have seen the book " No helmets required" you will know that we have a back story that would certainly make a good film in the footsteps of Brassed Off or The Full Monty. That certainly is the type of thing that Channel Four would go for.

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Quote: Levrier " If Union can sell competitions , utilising second string players, like the sevens and the LV cup then there may be a market for us.
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The majority of clubs don't have a second string!

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Quote: Leon Ashton "The majority of clubs don't have a second string!'"

.....and that is part of the problem.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Do you really need that answering?'"

Yes please. Anyone know?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "
Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Are the bbc, or any channel, going to show the England Knights v PNG games?

They have the potential to a great spectacle in front of packed stadiums with passionate supporters.

A documentary on the tour of PNG would be good too.'"


Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Do you really need that answering?'"


Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Yes please. Anyone know?'"
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TROLLING OF THE HIGHEST ORDER HERE. a014.gif

Sir Kev asks a question that he and the entire RL population already know the answer too, in the hope of attracting some more vitriol regarding how we are ignored by the media, the RFU conspiracy, the lack of direction from the RFL.......the usual stuff. When given an answer he doesn't like nor expect, he doubles down on the trolling.
It's hard to find an intelligent post from Sir Kev.......he's just a very clever part of a larger trolling wheel that involves others with a similar posting style.

Different IP addresses doesn't stop two (or more) individuals communicating outside of these boards to collectively give themselves a giggle.

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Quote: Call Me God "TROLLING OF THE HIGHEST ORDER HERE. Did you type that wearing a tin foil hat? It could just be a genuine question as to whether an England Knights v PNG International next month will be televised.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Did you type that wearing a tin foil hat?'"


There is no other explanation for you and your "ilk" posting in similar styles with identical agendas. No two mothers were ever that stupid to screw the same village idiot, so I am happy to assume that you and others are collectively trolling these boards with utter tripe.
Comments like "the game needs Toronto" are nothing more than trumpesque attempts to get a rise out of fans of smaller clubs with no substance behind them at all.
For the record, if you were t post something intelligent that I didn't agree with, that would't make you a troll, but you post inane drivel designed for nothing more than to give you a giggle and that makes you a troll of the highest order....you should be proud, because you and your buddies have cleaned house here and if you were to be "offed" by the mods, there's be nobody left.

Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield " It could just be a genuine question as to whether an England Knights v PNG International next month will be televised.'"

It could, but it wasn't c020.gif

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