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Quote: AS108 "I highly doubt that’s true. There’s meant to be over 1000 of us coming along and there’s no way there’ll only be 3,500 Cas fans. If there’s a game last years gloryhunters will come out for its this one. Also a lot of people will be paying on the gate as obviously no season tickets for cup games.'"


Like a glory hunter such as yourself.

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Huddersfield brought just under 40 fans to BV earlier in the season.

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R.E Widnes/Leeds attendance, is anyone really that shocked? From what I've seen Widnes fans are becoming more and more disillusioned with the club as the weeks go on, and I don't think Leeds fans view Widnes as the most enticing on opponents.

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Quote: Willzay "Huddersfield brought just under 40 fans to BV earlier in the season.'"


ah the rearranged fixture when alot of people were snowed in!

wakefield couldnt muster much themselves that day.. 2k?!?! at home

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Quote: GIANTSRL "ah the rearranged fixture when alot of people were snowed in!

wakefield couldnt muster much themselves that day.. 2k?!?! at home'"


Over 4K for that match not the best but not that bad for hastily arranged match in bad weather with no away fans. That's twice you've been wrong with your figures also talking to a Halifax fan today and he's said Huddersfields not their derby, seems like everyone else they're not bothered about you.

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Didn't Wakefield have a lower average attendance than Huddersfield last season and probably this season also in fact one of the lowest averages in SL seems a bit rich Wakefield fans going on about attendances

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The attendance issue would be fixed if they gave discounts to St holders. With next weeks magic to pay for suddenly 20 odd quid each plus a tank of fuel suddenly doesn't seem to attractive. Doesn't stop them being fans though. For a family of 4 your looking prob 100 quid so it's either that or a weeks shopping. No brainer for some low pay families. Add to that the fact if you don't finish till late...

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Quote: fun time frankie "Didn't Wakefield have a lower average attendance than Huddersfield last season and probably this season also in fact one of the lowest averages in SL seems a bit rich Wakefield fans going on about attendances'"


It's a bit rich for both fans granted, but consider the fact that Wakefield play out a dump, and Huddersfield play out of a modern football stadium, and who were five years ago one of the most exciting teams to watch, who do you think has more reason to be embarrassed?

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Quote: fun time frankie "Didn't Wakefield have a lower average attendance than Huddersfield last season and probably this season also in fact one of the lowest averages in SL seems a bit rich Wakefield fans going on about attendances'"

Not going on about attendances just correcting someone posting wrong information. Do Huddersfield still do cheap season tickets surely that should boost their figures.

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Quote: Willzay "It's a bit rich for both fans granted, but consider the fact that Wakefield play out a dump, and Huddersfield play out of a modern football stadium, and who were five years ago one of the most exciting teams to watch, who do you think has more reason to be embarrassed?'"

Don't get me wrong I'm not having a go as I've stated before Wakefield is my favourite away day and I hate going to Huddersfield 5,000 fans in a 25,000 plus stadium is depressing

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Never mind Widnes being former "cup kings", where were the Leeds fans ???
They'll all be their when the finals come around pretending that they give a damn and showing how "loyal" they are.'"


Where were they hordes of Wakey fans at Huddersfield then? You don't have to worry about Finals tickets now either.

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Quote: ALAW "The attendance issue would be fixed if they gave discounts to St holders. With next weeks magic to pay for suddenly 20 odd quid each plus a tank of fuel suddenly doesn't seem to attractive. Doesn't stop them being fans though. For a family of 4 your looking prob 100 quid so it's either that or a weeks shopping. No brainer for some low pay families. Add to that the fact if you don't finish till late...'"


Cas had ST holder discounts, my ticket was £15 and my Dads concession ticket £8.

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The game clearly needs to have a serious look at the Challenge Cup. We need to find some way of making the earlier rounds an event again, or we'll be reading this sort of thread forever. Personally, I'd like to start with getting more people at the CC games, and if that means clubs giving tickets away sobeit. I'm sure better marketing people than me can come up with ideas for the long term, but we need to do something in the short term, or we should just write the whole thing off apart from the Final.

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Surely the solution isn't flogging off the product as cheaply as possible (that's what gets RL into so many of the messes that it is already in), but is making the actual product something worth paying for? RL is already one of the cheapest professional sports to watch in the UK so if the problem for our fan base genuinely is cost, we really need to start finding new audiences. Cheap tickets in large quantities is not marketing - it never has been and it never will be.

A Friday night in Widnes is not a big draw - plain and simple. We can start calling out certain groups of fans as being "bad supporters" or whatever we want to do, but it doesn't change the fact that traveling to Widnes on a Friday night sounds about as appealing as hemorrhoids. There's a lot that you can spend your money on in Leeds on a Friday night, and that's what the game is competing with.

The solution lies in making the game, and the CC in particular, more marketable. This forum is often a bubble in that we convince ourselves that this sport is an amazing product that most people simply haven't fallen in love with yet, yet when the people who have fallen in love with it are asked to put their hands in their pocket for £20, they run away in their droves. The reality is that, when it comes to Widnes v Leeds on a Friday night (and so many other scenarios), the product just isn't that appealing.

Look at how this plays out in other sports. Football fans aren't as excited about the FA or League Cups but they will happily pay three times the price of a League Cup ticket for a Champions League game - the issue isn't cost, but the quality of the product. The same applies in rugby union. RU fans don't give a toss about the Anglo-Welsh Cup or the domestic competitions before it, but they'll follow their team across Europe in the European Championship - the cost isn't the issue here either, the issue is the product.

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do clubs still have to split gate money accordingly? whats the ratio nowadays?

The reason I ask is that I was at KR yesterday and the attendance was given at 3.5k, and wigan probably brought about 800 give or take.

It was definitely quieter then normal, but both the east and north stands were fairly full. I would guess there was closer to 4.5k - 5k there, so to lose roughly 1k for the "official" attendance seems like clubs may be trying to keep money themselves or not fully counting walk ups for example and just tickets sold

Pure conspiracy this, just would explain a couple of things like

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