Leeds charged Leeds RU £760k for provision of "stadium facilities" in 2016. That figure includes charges for use of Leeds' ticket office, bar staff, turnstile operators etc etc as well as the underlying rent of Headingley and Kirkstall but it's not a cheap business to be renting a sports stadium. The difference between a peppercorn and "commercial rent" could be survival or bust for a club like Wakefield so it's understandable if this has become a stumbling block.

Leeds, Hull, Wigan, Huddersfield do all share their stadium with other sports clubs. Maybe if Bradford did too they’d be in a better position financially. I don’t think anyone has suggested a merger, that is not the same as sharing a stadium.

Unfortunately, many RL fans are too small minded to see this question. This is now a matter far beyond just a new stadium for a minority sport, this is a question around the injustices and potentially illigeal dealings within local government which have allowed a developer to aquire greenbelt land and planning worth several million, with nothing returned to the local community

From an outsider looking in (and feel free to shoot me down wakey fans if I've got anything wrong)

Yorkcourt got planning permission for greenbelt land. As a "price" for this greenbelt land, they have to build a comminity stadium free of charge, and rent it to a comminity trust for a peppercorn rent. Now for whatever reason, York Court arent going to build it IMO maybe they can't afford, but newmarket looks dead to me. It could go to court, but again even if Wakey win the case, they sadly still end up losers as it drag on and the land will be taken back anyway and they have to find a new contractor.

88m own Belle Vue and the land around. They have agreed to redvelop BV. However they can't offer peppercorn rent as they own the land anyway. They need to make money and i dont see how some think they would build a stadium on land they already own, instead of houses and making no money from rent. As has been said, you can't have it built for free, play in it for free, and keep all the money from it.

If I've missed anything please shoot me down. What York Court have done is shameful, but again, getting justice in court still won't get the stadium built. Must be hell for the fans.

You've just missed out the latest proposal, only 4/5 weeks ago (you know the one with all the artist's impressions), which was somewhat different to the position that WMDC have now taken.
Once again, they have moved the F'in goal posts.

Court seems the only option, although, as you rightly say, this still may not secure a new ground.
It would however, expose some of the goings on at the top of WMDC and if had a spare £100,000, I'd willingly give it to Trinity to fight their caes and we could see exactly what has gone on.

Always annoys me how fev,dewsbury and Batley can fund there OWN tidy stadiums but others can’t...
In 1998 when wakey beat fev in the final to go in super league they promised it then,,,18 years on and only one of them 2 clubs has spent money on its ground while getting far fewer through the gates

As has been said on the Wakey forum, the club has pulled out of nothing. The club and the Trust that is going to run the stadium were told to submit a document spelling out how it would run the stadium and how the club would generate an income. The club and Trust have done that, and have used as a template what Wakefield Council called a "perfect" document used by Castleford.

The Council have spit out their dummy because they don't like it. The club haven't pulled out at all.

A complicating factor, of course, is the presence of a third party who wants to run the stadium and make the money. Wakey have done nothing wrong, but unfortunately there are other snouts in the trough getting in the way.

Another mindless sheep lacking the critical faculties ensconced within their brain. Are you still buying the austerity lie? How long will you buy it for? Another year? Another 5? Another 10? Or just for as long as the Conservatives can get away with blaming all their incompetence on it?

P.s The council agreed to let green belt land be removed for York Court properties to build on as long as a community stadium was built in return under a section 106 agreement. This obligation was never fulfilled and it is now obvious the developer NOR THE COUNCIL never had the intention of having this happen - just another corporate swindle where the suits get the dollars and the taxpayer sees nothing in return - except a giant fridge of course. Once this was highlighted in mainstream media and the truth started coming out about the council's blatant disregard for its own community, the council changed their tune to come up with this brilliant revamping of belle vue plan. Guess what... it has always been said by the club that the essence of the deal has to remain the same as Newmarket. That the rent is a peppercorn rent where the club pays a rent to be the main beneficiary of the stadium and can retain all profits on match days in order to keep the club sustainable financially. The council somewhat bemusingly have obviously changed the goalposts and want Trinity to pay more despite their previous ups an are trying to paint Trinity as the reason why this deal is not viable. All smells a bit funny doesn't it when you consider the context of the situation and not what you see from your club shared with a football club financed by a millionaire.

Nobody needs to read or write anyhting else other than this - this is exactly what the position is. Only thing I would add is that Box (WMDC leader) will not permit a stadium for Wakefield until the Castleford one is built. ATEOTD no new stadiums in Wakefield district.

I know I’m going to go from one of the most respected posters on rlfans to the level of vastman, saleslim, boytoy29 and Sheldon with this post but someone needs to address the elephant in the room. Why should Wakefield Council spend millions of our tax pounds on a stadium that 1% of the Wakefield population care about? If Wakefield are serious about protecting their future they need to cut ties with their toxic council and find someone else willing to bank roll it (easier said than done ofc)

Regards

King James

and funnily enough the thing is Carter has publicy said that if he and Gill were in charge of the Clubs 10 years ago, that's what they'd do. But since then we've had the fiasco of Yorkscourt and all that was prmosed to the Wakefield Community and Cas and have gone on to a scheme with Lateral.

Because they should get it back from YorkCourt as what's meant to be happening. You know that place in Newmaket where that Stadium and training grounds etc were going to be built. We even got a S106, planning and The Secretary of State to rubber stamp the development, for what it was worth. They can now buld on that plot of land another huge Coldstore or 2 and make millions and millions. Which is all totally feesable if the Council had some balls and will. Cater has also agreed to pay any interest , until WMDC get the money off Yorkcourt. By the way you do know no money will come from the rate payer full stop at any stage and the Council will just do what Leeds do and get finanace from the City.

Oh and as a Trust member as said on our forum Trinity haven't walked away from any talks, so he doesn't know what that Politician is on about.

Yes but we only get a small % of the match day takings on bar and food. We also get some ticketing but our benefits are being eroded by the spiteful owner of Hull city who runs the stadium management company. The deal we have is a poor one for the club but we;re stuck with it

you truly are a troll/thicko of epic proportions!

Pointless explaining to the troll, he full well knows that Wakefield have being fooked over by what sounds like unlawful actions by the council not to mention the impropriety, benefiting financially by being offered land unopposed at tender on the back of an offer/contract being fulfilled with what seems no intention whatsoever to fulfill is despicable at best and all aided and abetted by the council.

courts will enforce s106 planning obligations but this is going to be long and drawn out and cost money.
I've no dog in this fight but WMDC are a bunch of villainous shysters.