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| Quote: DGM "Because Coventry have shown a lot of interest in hosting it in previous years, including this one.
But you've inadvertently helped me make my point, is it all about attendances and cold hard cash, or is there a strategy to expand to new audiences etc?'"
I think it's probably about both, however there is no good in expanding to a new audience and then the very people that we are trying to attract can't fit into the stadium. Maybe I look at things a little too simplistically though. Also, as Yorksguy has said, the ground at Coventry is terrible for accessibility, is nowhere near anything and the place isn't exactly a cosmopolitan city is it. I went to the double header there in the four nations and it wasn't exactly one of the best experiences I've had. It was OK, but no way a contender for MW in my opinion. It's OK them showing a lot of interest, but the place needs to be suitable for the event. Having attended there, my opinion is that neither the stadium or the city is suitable for an event like the MW. I would love to see it taken to the Midlands, but the only stadium I can think of that could even be considered due to capacity would be Villa Park, but having never been I can't comment on suitability, but at least it is close to Birmingham which should have more to offer the fans for a weekend than Coventry does.
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| Quote: caslad75 "I think it's probably about both, however there is no good in expanding to a new audience and then the very people that we are trying to attract can't fit into the stadium. Maybe I look at things a little too simplistically though. Also, as Yorksguy has said, the ground at Coventry is terrible for accessibility, is nowhere near anything and the place isn't exactly a cosmopolitan city is it. I went to the double header there in the four nations and it wasn't exactly one of the best experiences I've had. It was OK, but no way a contender for MW in my opinion. It's OK them showing a lot of interest, but the place needs to be suitable for the event. Having attended there, my opinion is that neither the stadium or the city is suitable for an event like the MW. I would love to see it taken to the Midlands, but the only stadium I can think of that could even be considered due to capacity would be Villa Park, but having never been I can't comment on suitability, but at least it is close to Birmingham which should have more to offer the fans for a weekend than Coventry does.'"
I agree with much of that. I wasn't necessarily banging the drum for Coventry, just using it as an example.
One thing I take from your post though is who is the event aimed that? Fans of existing SL clubs, or locals, or both? Is it better to have 30,000 locals (new fans) or 50,000 existing SL fans - I'm not sure myself, and I'm not sure the RFL do either. That's why it comes down to a question of strategy and what the RFL want to achieve with MW.
One things for sure though, if the RFL are trying to use MW as a vehicle to attract new audiences to RL & to boost grassroots RL in that area (and help a local pro side if there is one), then they're doing a pretty poor job of it.
I suspect it is about £, which is why your points are focused on how the attendance can be maxed out with existing SL fans.
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What's the excuse for the dross you post [iJohn Flatcap Dozey ?[/i
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| Here's a question, has our favourite imaginary Frenchman ever suggested moving magic to France?? There would be a lot more Catalans fans there if it was! Might even be able to fill a minibus!
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| Leigh are taking about 1200 to Catalans a few weeks after Magic, and we will have about 2000 at Newcastle.
Magic should be based in Manchester with one in 3 on the road so to speak. The way hotels take advantage is wrong and for many Newcastle is not an easy place to get to/from especially when the novelty has worn off.
Mr Vastman I am sure if you look closer it's the normal 1/2 who talk sheeite about most things from Leigh
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| Quote: maurice "Leigh are taking about 1200 to Catalans a few weeks after Magic, and we will have about 2000 at Newcastle.
Magic should be based in Manchester with one in 3 on the road so to speak. The way hotels take advantage is wrong and for many Newcastle is not an easy place to get to/from especially when the novelty has worn off.
Mr Vastman I am sure if you look closer it's the normal 1/2 who talk sheeite about most things from Leigh'"
Why Manchester? Just so those teams on that side of the penines don't have to travel far? For supporters from Hull (Not so much Hull KR this year) Newcastle takes about the same time to get to as Manchester.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Why Manchester? Just so those teams on that side of the penines don't have to travel far? For supporters from Hull (Not so much Hull KR this year) Newcastle takes about the same time to get to as Manchester.'"
Its suppose to promote the game.The occasion/venue should be moved each season.Move it or the event becomes stagnent.Excuses already out for poor attendance before its even began.
Doesn't matter where the event is,just move it annually,or bin it.
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| Quote: caslad75 "I don't get why Coventry keeps being mentioned. If we are serious about growing the MW concept then the stadium simply shouldn't be big enough. Just over 39,000 attended Newcastle on the Saturday last year. Coventry holds roughly 32,500, so how can it be considered a serious contender in the MW concept?'"
I'd rather see a full stadia. Not one game will fill Newcastle and all will see that again..Smaller venue full house,thats marketing,thats promoting the game..
Thats what the viewers see..
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| Sheffield United have a similar capacity to Coventry... it's not far from train station or City centre either
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| Quote: atomic "I'd rather see a full stadia. Not one game will fill Newcastle and all will see that again..Smaller venue full house,thats marketing,thats promoting the game..
Thats what the viewers see..'"
Pro's and con's for both points of view. Neither is wrong or right. The biggest problem, I think, as DGM has commented on is that the RFL don't seem to know what they want to achieve out of MW. Until they decide on that it won't move forward as an event
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "Well, you had to be [icorrect[/i on one point at least.
Good luck for the rest of the season WT, you're playing some very good stuff.'"
Where is your proof you'll take more - again just made up my dads bigger than yours nonsense. Hell you lot have never even been to a Magic weekend so how do you know who takes what. Even Catalan fans turn up in decent numbers. We have already sold out our allocation whilst I for one will be going on the day all things working out. So I can assure you we will be as well represented as Leigh if not more so.
Stop the boasting will you, you can't back it up and it makes you look stupid. Just get your heads down, forget about trying to be big shots and try and stay up, that's all you should be worried about - not spurious claims as to who's taking more fans to Newcastle ffs.
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| Quote: maurice "Leigh are taking about 1200 to Catalans a few weeks after Magic, and we will have about 2000 at Newcastle.
Magic should be based in Manchester with one in 3 on the road so to speak. The way hotels take advantage is wrong and for many Newcastle is not an easy place to get to/from especially when the novelty has worn off.
Mr Vastman I am sure if you look closer it's the normal 1/2 who talk sheeite about most things from Leigh'"
Few more than that I'm afraid. I get your point and I understand the siege mentality but there has to be an element of humility - that is sadly lacking from some of the billy big who rather vocally thought you'd take SL by storm and now can't accept that they have been made to look chumps.
The old saying Rome wasn't built in a day should be taken on board by some of them.
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| Quote: vastman "Few more than that I'm afraid. I get your point and I understand the siege mentality but there has to be an element of humility - that is sadly lacking from some of the billy big rubbish who rather vocally thought you'd take SL by storm and now can't accept that they have been made to look chumps.
The old saying Rome wasn't built in a day should be taken on board by some of them.'"
You again seem to post with anonimosity,yet in the same sentence show humility..I'm presuming you have never ventured to a Summer Bash event or have never seen the need to do so.
Unfortunatley we have to encounter this trip to the North East courtesy of previous SL Clubs supporting the venture whose fans we now see showing apprehension towards it.
You all seem to change the tune when the going gets tough..
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