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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Just out of interest, what do you think the make up of this league may look like and if you think that maybe Toulouse and a couple of North American clubs may make the grade, what then.
I've been banging on for some time now that our sport should have a medium and long term plan as to where the sport should be aiming and the bottom line in (a bit like Brexit ![]()
It seems like the plan for expansion is to let clubs grow organically, starting in League 1, with the cream eventually rising to the top.
The problem RL faces, is that there's not really any money in the pot to really get behind an "expansion" club, coupled with a massive lack of expertise in the RFL on how to increase revenue steams. Plus, you can't really back an expansion side with cap exemptions or financial support without a Franchising system (E.g. Melbourne in the NRL), or the RL Dinosaur crew kicking off.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Just out of interest, what do you think the make up of this league may look like and if you think that maybe Toulouse and a couple of North American clubs may make the grade, what then.
I've been banging on for some time now that our sport should have a medium and long term plan as to where the sport should be aiming and the bottom line in (a bit like Brexit ![]()
If say, Toulouse and Toronto make the grade, I would have no issue with them being in super league, there could be two approaches from here, one being that we try and emulate Super Rugby who have clubs from all over, including Japan.
The second, which I suppose rings true more for the French clubs, is eventually we should be able to say, off you go set up your own league. This would be preferable but is less realistic IMO.
By and large I agree with your post our biggest issue is the lack of a plan, we want to expand, but the current system is so against expansion or even long term building for so called lesser clubs, at the same time, many of our heartland clubs need strengthening, but again, the current system seems to be against this.
We've got clubs that can't make ends meet, can't attract players, can't or aren't willing to even run an academy set up. We really are stuck.
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Glass eye You've missed the most obvious one and that is London. It is critical to the future of RL
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All fantastic home games for us Toronto, Catalan , Tolouse , London . Throw in Salford and you have 5 games with no travelling fans so no atmosphere . If it ever happens then God help us .
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "All fantastic home games for us Toronto, Catalan , Tolouse , London . Throw in Salford and you have 5 games with no travelling fans so no atmosphere . If it ever happens then God help us .'"
Yeh, away fans make quite a racket in that open Terrace. |
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| Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "I am to a certain extent, suggesting you 'scrap the lot' all current SL teams would be forced to resubmit their application of membership, and would be held to the same standard as those currently outside the top flight wanting in.'"
NO , you've missed my point , NO current teams would re submit , no Leeds , no Wigan , no Saints , no Warrington , no Hull
East and west Yorkshire , one playing out of Elland Rd , Headingley , new Cas stadium , Huddersfield , one playing out of KC , Sheffield , Doncaster
East and west Lancashire
All current teams , ALL current teams in the 2 nd tier playing in 2/3 regional competitions part time
That is proper franchising/licencing |
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| Quote: "All fantastic home games for us Toronto, Catalan , Tolouse , London . Throw in Salford and you have 5 games with no travelling fans so no atmosphere . If it ever happens then God help us .'"
American football seem to cope amongst other sports |
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "All fantastic home games for us Toronto, Catalan , Tolouse , London . Throw in Salford and you have 5 games with no travelling fans so no atmosphere . If it ever happens then God help us .'"
No because it wouldn't be ' You ' , it wouldn't be Leeds , it'd be West Yorkshire , playing out of Elland Rd ,Huddersfield and a new stadium at Glasshoughton , so with all Leeds current fans , along with Hudds,Fax,Wakey,Dewsbury,Batley,Fev,Cas,Bradford,Keighley the atmosphere will be fine , don't you think ?  |
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| Quote: GUBRATS "No because it wouldn't be ' You ' , it wouldn't be Leeds , it'd be West Yorkshire , playing out of Elland Rd ,Huddersfield and a new stadium at Glasshoughton , so with all Leeds current fans , along with Hudds,Fax,Wakey,Dewsbury,Batley,Fev,Cas,Bradford,Keighley the atmosphere will be fine , don't you think ? ![]()
In Union, Wasps re located from London to Coventry and are getting crowds of 16/17,000.
It's all down to good exposure and clever marketing.
Perhaps we should do a deal where they (Union) get to keep Solomona for nowt and they lend us some marketing expertise on how to develop our game 
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| Quote: GUBRATS "NO , you've missed my point , NO current teams would re submit , no Leeds , no Wigan , no Saints , no Warrington , no Hull
East and west Yorkshire , one playing out of Elland Rd , Headingley , new Cas stadium , Huddersfield , one playing out of KC , Sheffield , Doncaster
East and west Lancashire
All current teams , ALL current teams in the 2 nd tier playing in 2/3 regional competitions part time
That is proper franchising/licencing'"
Forgive my ignorance, but I seem to be missing the point again.
Both the NRL and the NFL operate a franchising system that contains members of former leagues, (the colts for example in the NFL). They also are teams found in cities rather than a generic region, look at the amount of Sydney teams in the NRL. |
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| Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "Forgive my ignorance, but I seem to be missing the point again.
Both the NRL and the NFL operate a franchising system that contains members of former leagues, (the colts for example in the NFL). They also are teams found in cities rather than a generic region, look at the amount of Sydney teams in the NRL.'"
Look at the ' Super Rugby ' system for true franchising and expansion
So all supporters then follow their choice ( usually their regional franchisee ) and their original local team as well if they want
That'd work don't you think ? |
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Super Rugby with the Melbourne Rebels?
We all know how much Starbug loves a false dichotomy and a straw man, i dread to think how excited he is about offering the false choice between P+R or a system that nobody suggested and doesnt exist.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Super Rugby with the Melbourne Rebels?
We all know how much Starbug loves a false dichotomy and a straw man, i dread to think how excited he is about offering the false choice between P+R or a system that nobody suggested and doesnt exist.'"
Bog off , nobodys interested |
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Bog off , nobodys interested'"
Well, they are queuing around the block to read you being wrong about how competitions work!
You could just admit, that even in the arbitrarily narrow parameters you set, you were wrong. |
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If you have the greatest product ever made but don't know how to advertise, market or sell it, then business may not be that good unless you charge a fortune to the few people "in the know" for the product.
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