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Johnson the difference. England would have won easily were it not for him imo. shows the importance of having that x factor pulling the strings. miricale needed to make the final now

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Lack of composure at the end again cost us.Not levelling the scores earlier when we had the chance, Widdop ignoring Gale and Watkins and throwing a looping ball to John Bateman on the break, they are not the sort of decisions that win test matches.

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Quote: caslad75 "Game management non existent, down to the very last tackle when the ball need to be kept alive and Watkins takes it short side!!'"

The guy was awful today. Seems like all the predicted weak links let the side down. I'd drop all 3 Burgess brothers for the Oz match, both centres and Widdop. How we fill those gaps is a different problem though. Oh, And I'd beg McNamra to coach the rest of the tournament.

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Quote: Dally "What is wrong with f@@@@@@@ Watkins? Make a break and he runs and stands in front of the ball.'"


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All in all a typical English performance. Matty Smith would've gone for th drop goal.

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Thought the centres were awful today, did nothing between them and with wingers like we had today we should have been giving Jerry and Ryan Hall much more ball and giving them chance to run.
Sarginson is/was just plain crap and Watkins looked like he simply couldn't be bothered.

Half-backs were pretty anonymous apart from Gale's pointless high kicks.

We had no spark, no one just to come up with the eye catching play.

Thought Graham and McGillvary were our best players by a mile, can't really remember anyone else standing out.

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Quote: Dally "The guy was awful today. Seems like all the predicted weak links let the side down. I'd drop all 3 Burgess brothers for the Oz match, both centres and Widdop. How we fill those gaps is a different problem though. Oh, And I'd beg McNamra to coach the rest of the tournament.'"


I just don't know what we do in the centres, they were both awful today.

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Anyone able to point out to me what Bennett brought to the table that Macnamara couldn't?

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I am very fed up of drop goals.

Last three games.

My teams attempts, two. Scored, nil.

Opposition attempts, three. Scored, three.

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Quote: Dally "The guy was awful today. Seems like all the predicted weak links let the side down. I'd drop all 3 Burgess brothers for the Oz match, both centres and Widdop. How we fill those gaps is a different problem though. Oh, And I'd beg McNamra to coach the rest of the tournament.'"


Did you actually watch the game? Widdop made wrong decisions in the last 10 but was easily our most creative threat, Sam burgess was vital in getting our sets moving, and Watkins was quiet but still did far better than Sarginson.
Also if you can't actually believe we didn't look better today than last year under Mcbanana

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I've not been impressed with Bennet but it's only two chuffin games.

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Quote: Willzay "Can't be criticising Watkins and upsetting the blue and amber folk
Watkins just gets unnecessary criticism for England, by no means the worst performer today but gets picked out for some reason, if Widdop had got the ball to him on the break instead of Bateman then he would have been under the posts as there was only Harris in front of him

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10 seconds left why did clarke run into the kiwi defenders? he should be getting that ball back in the middle, at least give us a chance to throw it around

too many poor decisions, widdop, s burgess


sarginson? oh dear!

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Did you actually watch the game? Widdop made wrong decisions in the last 10 but was easily our most creative threat, Sam burgess was vital in getting our sets moving, and Watkins was quiet but still did far better than Sarginson.
Also if you can't actually believe we didn't look better today than last year under Mcbanana'"

Widdop lost us the match - his only creativity in putting Johnson through.

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In summary, two poor teams who just provided a backdrop for one good player to show how much better than the rest he was, Oz to win the final by 40 plus. They look a better sde than for a few years and I rate Meninga.

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The Burgess twins have bad ball control on collision, that's nothing new from them. We looked far better with Graham and Hill on.

Sam, I think was guilty of trying to do too much today.

Watkins was Ok, kept Kata quiet and didn't get much ball. Sarginson on the other hand seemed to get a lot of ball and make the wrong descision a lot. Wouldn't have a problem with either being dropped for Percival.

I'm a big critic of Widdop, but interception aside, don't think he did too much wrong today and is probably worth a try a game in goal kicks.

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