Absolutely.Imagine our pack with George Burgess, Walmsley and possibly Sam Burgess added to it for next year!

First 20 minutes it was like a library. Probably contributed to the lacklustre England start.Picked up though

No stand out players, just a good team effort. would like to see player stats after that, Joe seemed to never have hold of the ball.

Was he doubted? There are no viable alternatives anyway but he's just the type of player we need. Him and Widdop could be quite the double act

Don't think Williams was doubted, most people, me included we're interested to see if he could step up. Too early to tell yet but he didn't let anyone down.

You Wigan fans need to drop the paranoia a bit though, it's a bit cringeworthy.

The front row forwards were excellent. They bullied the NZ pack in the 2nd half. I'd like to see Whithead, and Farrell come into the game more. They caused problems when they hit holes, but they got sucked into the middle too often.
Williams was good, Widdop, again was bang average.

Doubters?

I'd start Ferres ahead of Farrell next week, he's bigger and offers a greater threat.

I take it the Kiwis had a few drinks last night celebrating the Union team's WC win? They were bobbins in that second half.

We looked quite good, if a bit scrappy at times. We grew into the game and took full control in the second half though wth some very solid performances and for once we kept our penalty count and errors to a minimum.

We will have to be better again next week because the Kiwis can't possibly play that poorly again.

What doubters?

Neither side great but winning when not playing well is a good habit to get into.

For me Widdop and Williams would be our HB pairing until the next WC unless someone breaks on to the scene. We have a limited number of opportunities to play our half backs together. Williams and Widdop have the talent to be a great HB pairing. Got to e patient with Williams. He's going to make mistakes. But he's only 20 and 2 years of international tests will set him up for the 2017 WC.

Exciting thing is the depth we are now getting! Also how young this squad is, the core group of this squad will be hitting their peak in 2 years time.

Burgess brothers, Watkins, Tomkins, Hill, Hardaker, Bateman. They're only going to get better and hopefuly with have played plenty of tests together by 2017.

Our starting pack aside from Hill were really poor and could have left us with you much to do but for a huge effort from the bench.

That bench dragged guys like Graham and O'Loughlin with them second half and got us over the line.

Plenty to work on but after a poor start, that's avert good win.

Does anyone else think that attendance figure was rubbish? There were deffo more than 23,500 in there, I was full apart from that little bit by the tunnel which could only be 200 at the most.

Thought Williams grew in to the game. Neither half backs excelled but they did enough.

Thought Farrell worked hard defensively but was dominated too many times going forward. Bateman will one day make a top quality 2nd rower but he isnt a centre.

Hall worked incredibly hard, but was basically an extra forward we offered nothing really threatening on that edge.

Front row was very good, they pretty much ground them out of it, Hodgson and Roby interchanged very well.

But that was a very very simple game plan, we played pretty much all the game in the middle third with very little going wide, staying strong in the middle and waiting for mistakes. Of which the kiwis made plenty. Dropped a fair bit of ball, gave away some silly penalties, but our red zone attack was very poor.

Saying all that we have just beaten the world champions fairly comfortably. It was an outstanding defensive effort.

I couldn't see what the upper tier was like?
Does having a video screen take any off the capacity at the KC?