No they won't. Coaches like Wane & Anderson & muppets on here will ridicule referees not players.

And Powell, Cunningham, McDermott, Smith x2' Betts, Sheens, Radford and Chester (apologies if I forgot one).

Coaches will almost always deflect attention away from their players as they know how precious confidence is.

I've no issues with very high penalty counts providing the RFL stick with it until players and coaches get the message. In the past we've had various directives resulting in high penalty counts for the first few games of the season then it is all forgotten.

I have no problem with high penalty counts but coaches like Wane & Anderson & muppets on here will ridicule referees not players.

The point is while the calls against Ellis and koppy might have been the right calls, why were they given then when the same offences had been commited by both teams all night

Every time McGillvary hit the ball up Leeds should have been penalised for the very offence Ellis was

Thats what coaches and fans alike complain about

I’m not aware of any Leeds players shoulder-charging into the back of a restrained player.
The Ellis one is a more difficult one for me. I was brought up in the time when ball-stealing in the tackle was fair game. Consequently you were taught to respect possession far more & held onto the ball more carefully than players have to now. My immediate instinct now is that it is the ball-players responsibility to hold on & if the ref misses it, it’s tough, you should have been more careful. But if there is interference, & the ref penalises, you have no-one to blame but yourself.
However, with 5 minutes left the Hudds players should have been doubly careful not to give the ref any opportunity to blow up.

Yeah the real issue is the Shoulder charge, which was just plain dumb (though that only happens because of the Ellis penalty) and is just bloody typical of koppy

Though I won't ever not think Hardacre is a low down soccer grub for milking it for all he was worth, it might have been a penalty but that behaviour has no place in our game

interesting stuff in this weeks league express, Martyn Sadler thinks ablett and his ability to milk penalties s who Leeds fans should be thanking for the win, he's always been very good at that.

another contributor suggests that it was Huddersfield's sportsmanship for drawing attention to hardakers "injury" to have the game stopped, which the incident was then replayed on the screen and the penalty subsequently awarded, some cynics would suggest Hardaker had got over his injury by then

but i agree with C13, it's the fact that referees only penalise one team for the same offence that both teams are guilty of, which frustrates, i would be happy to see a 30-30 penalty count if it meant the game was officiated fairly for both teams.

Hardaker was injured. His legs were trapped by Broughs reckless scissors sliding tackle. He was limping after the game and on Saturday morning.

There is no way Hardaker would have known if it was a shoulder charge or legal tackle, given he had his back to him. Plus some are crediting Hardaker with the instantaneous nous to work out what the VR outcome would be.

Lets just get rid of match officials and let the crowd decide.

Seems to be the only way forward.

I have always found it strange that the players are never ever at fault no matter the scenario.

Leeds winning the Hub cap was down to Childs and Silverwood because it can't be down to the players

I'll let some think about that.

That's pretty much how it happens at some SL grounds anyway.

Well you'd know!!!!

Ablett is doing nothing new. I remember Fielden at Bradford doing exactly the same thing.