Salford had no bloody coach or man of steel 2011, yet still did what every side in SL bar wakey have done this season and gave Catalan a good beating at home.

I think Salford sneaked past them, it was a long way from a good beating.

Come on Jeanette, your standards are slipping.

Todd Carney? I assume you mean Toddington Carney.
John Zebolon Ta'ia? I assume refers to Johnathon Zebolon Ta'ia.

Consistency please, Jeanette.

So that's six players missing?
No Greg Johnson, no Rangi Chase, no Adrian Morley, no Tommy Lee, no Lama Tasi, no Cory Paterson no Carl Foster.All out injured

None of them are of the stature and brilliance of Todd Carney and John Zebolon Ta'ia.

He can always change the thread title from four to eight!

So a 40 all draw in Perpignan with both sides at virtually full strength and we beat you at home with both sides missing the same number of first choice players ...... Says to me that Salford are a better side than Les Dracs!!

Or maybe 'Will Catalans be in the bottom four?'

Maybe "Can Catalans make the top four...of the Middle 8s"?

I said at the start of the season that, Todd Carney or no Todd Carney, I saw no reason why they should finish higher than Hudds or Cas.

I'm not usually much of a prediction expert, but I don't think you needed much of a crystal ball for that.

At home they are a match for anyone tbf. The question was could they improve their away form to an acceptable level? The answer is an emphatic no.

They have only beaten Wakefield on their travels, and they played that game when Wakefield were possibly at their worst. If that game was taking place this weekend I would fancy them to lose that one too.

Well, exactly, my vegetarian friend!

Had Todd Carney, Morgan Escare, Eloi Pelissier and John Zebolon Ta'ia all been fit for almost every game, then the standing of Catalans on the table would have been much better.

Had Cas had Carney Solomona and dorn fit for every game we would be higher up. Had Salford not have had half their team suspended they'd be higher, had kr not lost most their pack they'd be higher....see what I'm saying? Plus there's only Todd Carney from that list who's been long term. Face it, catalan due to their dour away form are average at best....

had Huddersfield not lost their first 4 games, and had Brett Ferres not missed half the season etc etc etc

what a plank