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| Quote: Mike Oxlong "Does Inglis not get downward pressure when first trying to sweep the ball out?'"
the defensive player has to intentionally ground the ball. Inglis may have got downward pressure but he didn't intend to ground the ball.
TBF that would have been a 'better' decision even though clearly still wrong. I would have disagreed but I can see the process that comes to that decision.
The decision we got was just nonsense, an awful decision with a worse attempted justification.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "50/50 call if the try had been at the other end I would have been disappointed if Australia had been awarded it. We will beat the Aussies when we produce a creative half back that can control the game and has a kicking game that is international standard'"
I don't think it was a 50/50 call. It was one which would hurt if you got it against you, and live you wouldn't believe had gone against you. But it was the last meaningful play, the clock was stocked, the VR had as long as he wanted to make it and plenty of evidence all pretty conclusive one way.
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| Quote: wiganermike "Obviously I am looking at it from the point of view of a disappointed England fan but that incident for me highlights that we need to have a strict policy of neutral officials only. It's not as if we couldn't have done so either. We have all seen the replays of it and the ball was clearly flat on the ground with Hall's finger on it, it should have been a try. We can never know for sure whether a neutral official would have awarded a try or whether had it been Australia rather than England looking to tie the match that the try would have been given. However that the decision that would likely have put Australia out of the tournament or kept them in it was in the hands of an Australian is ridiculous. With a non-neutral official making such an important decision in the favour of his own nation it is always going to smell fishy. Had a Frenchman made that call we would still be disappointed of course but there wouldn't be the same opportunity for (or feeling of) suspicion of home bias.
Publicly bemoaning the decision would do us no favours and credit to the players and coach for not doing so but hopefully there will be some done in private so that we can get a rule change to require use of neutral officials from now on.'"
This. There is no way in professional international sport that we should be having a situation where referees are allowed to adjudicate where countries of their home birth are playing. That was a try without a shadow of a doubt and the australian referees explanation (plus video referee) was less than convincing. You think that Cameron Smith had won the competition running around the field with that ridiculous hat on.
Corrupt.
It should never be allowed to happen again with immediate changes needed...
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| Surely in a tournament the referee appointments for all group games should be decided and announced prior to the tournament commencing ? This process of appointing on a game by game basis is the problem, it's always going to lead to situations like this.
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| Got love a keyboard warrior lol
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| Another embarrassment for international rugby league. It's clearly a try.
Let's face it he was never going to give it. Why would he? This is an Australian tournament and Australia must make the final at all costs.
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| England should honestly just pack their bags and go home. No point even trying against that sort of biased officiating. Did anyone notice how the video ref stopped looking at the slow motion replays and started running through at normal speed when it looked like he was going to have to award a try?
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| GROUNDING means (a) placing the ball on the ground with hand or
THE BALL hands or
(b) exerting a downward pressure on the ball
with hand or arm, the ball itself being on the
ground or
(c) dropping on the ball and covering it with the
part of the body above the waist and below
the neck, the ball itself being on the ground.
So, with reference to (b), it clearly was a try. Consequently I'm assuming we'll hear an apology from the Australian RL on the 5 o'clock news.
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| Yet again.
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| It's not a try - just given the wrong decision at the outcome. Should have been a dropout for Australia due to Inglis grounding!
Nothing more to see here
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| The two,soft laying on penalties that got Australia into the game were far more biased IMO. Given the flops and wrestling we saw from the Australians to give two in 2nd half was farcical.
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| Quote: headhunter "England should honestly just pack their bags and go home. No point even trying against that sort of biased officiating. Did anyone notice how the video ref stopped looking at the slow motion replays and started running through at normal speed when it looked like he was going to have to award a try?'"
Setup a seperate 5 nations with England & NZ and Wales, France, PNG, Samoa, Fiji etc rotating into it or by winning the European/Pacific comps. At least whoever wins will be honest winners. If the Aussies want to join in they can do. Under full international rules, not NRL based rules & interpretations, and with neutral refs.
After all there was only 20k there. The Aussies clearly don't care for international RL if they can't win every game, and that 20k is no great loss. The last England/GB v Australia crowd in Britain to be that low was in 1986.
If the Aussies want to retreat within their own borders then let them. And let them do it well and truly on their own.
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| Will the rfl come out and publicly say something?
Add the word gutless to inept.
Either that or a a full on endorsement and crawling under the Aussies backside.
Cheating plain and simple.
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| A friend of mine umpires cricket. He was talking with the captain of one of the teams after a game one day who was saying how much better it was when they have a neutral umpire (like my friend, which is not always possible at that level). Not because they're necessarily better, but because there's a difference between feeling unlucky and feeling cheated.
My issue isn't so much that it was a bad decision (though in my, admittedly biased option it was probably wrong), it's who had to make it. If it had been a Neutral VR I'd be disappointed, but that's sport. This creates suspicion which isn't fair on anyone, including the officials themselves.
Anyway, England would have likely missed the conversion then lost narrowly to nz while Australia put 40 odd a drained Samoan team, given how these things always seem to pan out. Even a draw would have been nice though, and not undeserved for all that England went into their shell in the second half.
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| Im beginning to hate the NRL authorities more than i d do the RFU.
Up there with the most sickening acts of cheating i have seen in a good while.
Disgusting
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