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| Quote: Bruce_Forsyth "What's all this '2009' and 'the last 6 seasons' that keeps cropping up in posts from Warrington fans?
Why do Dire Wolf supporters think RL only began then?'"
May I suggest you change your Location from "Knowing it all" to something more appropriate
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| Quote: RuddyScoosers "Wire fans busy attempting to put a dampener on our Grand Final win.
What the hell do they know about winning Super League titles anyway???'"
Bravo, jolly well done...better now?
BTW the thread is called "when will we get a new name on the SL trophy" and there's not much mischief from Wire fans as far as I can make out.
I would have thought that Warrington are best placed to be the next new name, but, I thought that our best chance was over the last two/three years. We should have a chance all things being equal, but, the longer the wait the more the odds will favour other contenders.
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| Quote: Saddened! "It's getting more and more like the NRL now. You really can't call who is going to win it next season. For the first time in Super League history we have a relatively open competition. Leeds, Wigan, Wire and Saints could all win it. It's been a while since four teams could genuinely say that.'"
seriously???? Anyone in the NRL can win their comp just look at the list of different winners, 4 teams out of 12 in SL is rubbish and is what's holding the game back imo.
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| Quote: Mike87 "seriously???? Anyone in the NRL can win their comp just look at the list of different winners, 4 teams out of 12 in SL is rubbish and is what's holding the game back imo.'"
If I were a betting man I'd wager a whole pound that Gold Coast, Penrith, Cronulla, Canberra, Parramatta, North Queensland, Newcastle & New Zealand won't win the NRL in the next 5 years. Maybe even 10.
The NRL is better but it's certainly not at the level where anyone can win it. The difference with the NRL is that most teams seem able to have a bad year or 2 and then turn it around and be a contender. In SL teams struggle to poke their nose into the position of being a contender.
Though, until Crowe's takeover, Souths didn't stand a chance.
Possibly due to smaller squads but in the end, in my opinion, it's the fact most of the "lower" SL clubs are run on shoestring budgets.
Also, the Premier League has had only 4 different winners in the same time frame, out of 20 clubs. Union isn't great either with only 7 different winners.
To be honest I think there's far more chance these days for a "5th" winner than there ever has been in SL. Don't forget it took 8 years for Leeds to become the 4th. I think it's just a matter of time, only a few years, before Warrington and Huddersfield win.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
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| Quote: Him "If I were a betting man I'd wager a whole pound that Gold Coast, Penrith, Cronulla, Canberra, Parramatta, North Queensland, Newcastle & New Zealand won't win the NRL in the next 5 years. Maybe even 10. '"
Hmmm....I'd fancy at least one of those teams to feature in a GF in the next 5 years.....NZ Warriors 2015 will be the surprise package IMHO. 11 winners since 1998 BTW.....69% of the teams have won it.
Quote: Him "Union isn't great either with only 7 different winners.'" Bad comparison.....
.....from a division of 12 clubs, close to 60% of them winning the trophy over the last 18 years ain't too shabby.
60% from the 14 SL sides would have delivered more than 8 winners. Also, Newcastle to London (280 miles) kind of blows the M4 corridor/Midlands Heartland rubbish out of the water.....St Helens, Wigan, Leeds and Bradford (60 miles) are all pretty much on each others doorsteps by comparison.
Warrington are next up. They have London/Harlequins RL to thank for it too......we spanked them rotten at the Stoop in March 2009 and it was after that game that they turned the corner.......all thanks to London
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| Every game matters next season. No stupid playoffs. More intense games. You reach the top four and your one game away from the final. You can't afford a bad run of games IMO.
Saints, Wigan, Wire, Leeds and maybe even Hudds, Catalan could easily get top 4 and have a big chance to get there name on the trophy or at least get more appearances in finals.
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| Quote: Bruce_Forsyth "What's all this '2009' and 'the last 6 seasons' that keeps cropping up in posts from Warrington fans?
Why do Dire Wolf supporters think RL only began then?'"
Can't tell if you're fishing or are just deluded.
2009 onwards has been our most successful time for quite a while, so much so that Sky keep tipping us to win the GF. (Note how I said Sky, not Wire fans)
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| Quote: Saddened! "I think we're seeing a real levelling of the playing field with the lower salary cap year on year relative to the NRL and Union.
Is that what we really aspire to? We may as well give up if our only hope is that eventually the strongest clubs are weakened to the point that they no longer win. I look forward to the day when I am the winning Super League captain with my one legged mate John as the man of steel, because that is all there will be left.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: DropGoalGiant "Every game matters next season'"
Really?
The top 6 will target the bottom 6 as winnable games with their own "mini-league" more about "not losing" rather than winning.
Boring "safe" RL will reign at the top with some blow-outs against "lesser" opposition.......and staying up will be of more financial value than winning the competition outright.
Something is very wrong with that....very wrong.
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| Quote: Vespid_Wire "
I'd say we are considered part of the top 4 as Bradford have fallen, they still have more silverware than us in the SL era, but we are up there now. '"
Who are the 'top 4' then and on what basis are Wire part of this elite?
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| Quote: Bruce_Forsyth "Who are the 'top 4' then and on what basis are Wire part of this elite?'"
Getting to finals & winning trophies would be a couple of fairly decent measures? The last 5 years would showAppearances at finals since 2010 (GF & CC)
Leeds 6
Wigan 5
Warrington 4
Saints 3
Cas 1
Hull 1
Trophies since 2010 (inc WCC)
Leeds 4
Wigan 4
Warrington 2
Saints 1
Average SL attendances for 2014?
15,068 Leeds
14,102 Wigan
12,051 Saints
11,065 Hull
9,870 Warrington
~ The rest all sub 8k.
SL playoff game wins since 2010 (inc GF)?
Leeds 10
Wigan 10
Saints 9
Warrington 7
Catalans 3
Huddersfield 3
Hull 2
Hull KR 1
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| Leeds have 4 trophies
2011 & 2012 Grand Final
2012 World Club Challenge
& 2014 Challenge Cup
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| Quote: Him "Leeds have 4 trophies
quite right, I've editted accordingly.
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| To be honest, I wouldn't bother arguing with, or wasting time providing facts for Brucie, as its apparent he's only got into RL in the last year.
He must be looking for something to fill his time since the BBC sacked him from Strictly....
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| Yet again, why do these Wire muppets think we should only take into account 2009 onwards????
Not a 'big club'.
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