What video evidence. A player mutters something and everyone's a lip reading expert. You just can't stop blind hating a player and club. Bet you believe everything you read and see on TV too.

I watched it back a couple of times as I was curious as to what caused the reaction. I couldn't see anything even remotely conclusive so unless there is another camera angle it will likely remain a mystery.

As good as Hardaker is, he has an attitude problem ( not the homophobic issue ) that will haunt him throughout his carreer if he doesnt grow out of it

It is almost as if he believes nobody is allowed to tackle him, my son had the same problem, he grew out of it by the age of 7

Don’t let him / her in on it .


Friday nights can be so dull, free rein I say .

A Leopard doesn't change its spots. He reminds me of Todd Carney an undoubted talent but has his finger on the self distruct button.

Even as a Leeds fan I admit that it could well be 'puff' that he says.....but could also be prick. Not 100% conculsive and bans based on lip reading....hmmm bit of dodgy area for me.

The key thing is that in the previous incident, James Child claimed to have heard it. If Silverwood hasn't heard it then it's surely got to be no go in terms of punishment hasn't it?

And make your own conclusions.

Flanagan had a twist at his ankle. The sort of thing this board wanted Jamie Peacock burned alive for a few weeks ago.

rollin thunder has been given a break for his earlier vitriol.

Any further posts of the same nature will be met with the same result, please remember to keep within the AUP.

How much flipping time do you have on your hands?

Keep it clean please! - BackrowSaint

Agree

Well a vine is 6 seconds long, at 0.5x speed that's 12 seconds. So 12 seconds.

I wouldn’t put my house on what he said, but if Silverwood didn’t hear anything, you would think that would be the correct action, however, Big Nige may just hire a bona-fide lip reader.

Do any other league players swear?

From the reaction on here I assume not.

As for all the expert lip readers claiming Zak definitely said something you need to google the "McGurk Effect". The only thing that is certain is that you *definitely* do not know what was said from a video

Bottom line is saints players were all around and in ear shot, so if he said what the witch hunters are claiming it'll be cited and the appropriate action taken.

For now people should stop the witch hunt. Innocent until proven guilty.