Did you watch the world cup? I would take Masoe at HKR any day of the week. The man is a wrecking ball!!!

Did you watch the world cup? I would take Masoe at HKR any day of the week. The man is a wrecking ball!!!

Wow I know we have some harsh critics out there but bottom 3, not sure where that one comes from but if we do I'll quite happily let you take a dump in my shoes.

Best go and tell the doctor his investment so far equates to a basement battle. WTF are you on ?

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I'd like to think that if Wakefield can finally get their four overseas players in Anderson, Godinet, Ryan and hopefully Siejka before the start of Super League (Visas! ) and quickly develop a good starting 17 then we'll not be in the bottom 2 by the end.

If Salford stay clear of injuries they'll definitely be in the top 8 but hopefully they will have a shock loss to Wakey at the start!

My dear chap, I have no desire to dump in your shoes, or in any item of your clothing, for that matter. Just calling it like I see it. I think Koukash has spent what he can on what he's been able to find, but I fear the total won't be the sum of its parts. Now don't think I'm some gratuitous Salford knocker. I'd love Salford to be successful, get big crowds and make some serious inroads into Manchester for RL. But from a neutral's perspective, taking your squad :


1 Jake Mullaney - FB - wouldn't be the first Aussie to come to Salford for a holiday, but let's reserve judgement - could be good.

2 Danny Williams - WG - meh

3 Martin Gleeson (vc) - CE - used to be a big fan when at Saints, but a total headcase off the field, and has largely ed away his talent, which is a shame. Waste of a shirt in most games.

4 Junior Sa'u - CE - Not quite made it antipodean, no better really than the sort of fringe islander London traditionally sign.

5 Francis Meli - WG - Too old and lazy now. But at least you won't have to experience his habit of making colossal feckups in Finals.

6 Rangi Chase - SO - on his day, brilliant with ball in hand. A terrible team player. Another off-field headcase. Trouble with a capital T.

7 Tim Smith - SH - Clever player, but another who has just failed to settle at a club or show consistent form. Don't see why Salford should be any different.

8 Adrian Morley (c) - PR - Great career. But it's over.

9 Tommy Lee - HK - poor hooker, already failed at several clubs

10 Lama Tasi - PR - who ?

11 Tony Puletua - SR - Big Tony was a star for Saints early on, but by last season, the ballboys were faster than him when jogging backwards, and his workrate makes the Greeks look like Stakhanovites.

12 Gareth Hock - SR - devastating on the field, but also sadly off it. Nutjob. Will lose more games with penalties than he wins with good play, and will miss plenty for disciplinary problems.

13 Steve Rapira - PR - meh

14 Théo Fages - SH - I thought last year the hype around this lad was entirely manufactured. He's ok. He's not great.

15 Darrell Griffin - PR - When your pack enters the field, do they get free pensioner mobility scooters ?

16 Andrew Dixon - SR - from a club which produces an endless supply of solid, unspectacular, unthreatening second-rows (Saints), comes one of the least impressive.

17 Shannan McPherson - PR - Hooray, a prop under 30. Solid, unspectacular.

18 Harrison Hansen - SR - Solid, unspectacular. Do I detect a theme ?

19 Matty Ashurst - SR - see Dixon....


I stopped there. I know there are others who will get a game when either your headcases are suspended for on-off-field disciplinary cases, or your old fellers in the pack are injured. But let's face it, none of them are names to cause the crowds to start shivering with excitement.

Should be good enough to turn over London and Widnes with no problems. Decent matches against Wakey, Cas etc. I predict a few thumpings against the top 6 sides. Sadly.

Funny how you don't say that to those predicting good things for Salford. Is no one allowed to say bad things about Salford?

For the record, I think he was overstating his opinion to make the point, but what do you disagree with? His points on puletua are pretty much spot on

As for noble he also signed a team that caused the club to go bust ... So there's an element of how well did he do given the resources available ... His job before at Wigan he hardly lit the world on fire ... But that's being pinickity and just showing there's another point of view to those held in Salford ...

He took wigan from the relegation zone one year to one game away from the grand final the next! Not bad that. I'm not saying noble didn't spend with the crusaders! I said he got the club to the six in there second year in Superleague which is pretty dam good IMO. He didn't bankrupt the crusaders the people incharge did. People can say what they like about Salford on here, I can reply how I like on here as well.

St Helens 2014

1.Jonny Lomax.. a legend to the Saints fans only a bit like theo at Salford more the fans wanting him to be great rather than actually being great.

2.Tom Makinson.. hardly an Antony Sullivan nothing great imo more down to the quality of super league lowering being the reason of him doing anything in games.

3. Jordan Turner.. Average player was at Salford was at Hull still is at saints wont be ripping any trees up.

4. Josh Jones.. Meh

5. Adam Swift.. Meh

6. Lance Hohaia.. WAS a decent WORLD CLASS player 5 years ago now he's nothing more than an average fullback playing stand off, saints fans slagged him off something rotten last year what's going to be the difference this year?

7. Luke Walsh.. supposedly a good player according to the expert saints fans, fact is I've never heard of him being spoken of in high regard is Australia if he was that great you'd have countless NRL clubs cuing up to land him fact is there wasn't.

8.Mose Masoe.. Big lad Could be a good player don't know yet though.

9. James Roby.. good attacking hooker probably the one world class player saints have.

10.. Louie McCarthy-Scar..oh cant be bothered.. just an average forward no better than any other forward in SL.

11.Sia Soliola.. had an ok world cup got dominated against England Knights at aj bell in samoa's warm up game, not exactly Simon Mannering quality anymore.

12. Jon Wilkin.. Been there (not there anymore) passed it

13. Willie Manu.. another pacific Islander type player similar to what Hull FC would sign.

14. Anthony Laffranchi.. another NRL player who wanted one last payday so headed for SL.

15. Mark Flannigan.. meh

16. Kyle Amor.. the experience this guy brings is just what St Helens need I mean all those big matches grand finals Challenge cup finals what a world beater that guy is.

See its easy to pull a team apart and give a supposed expert view into how good or bad certain players are going to be.

Please tell me this is a wind up of some sort? Otherwise, you are literally clueless.

Saints fan I presume? obviously not totally serious just pointing out how what you write can pick fault with any player.

Saying meh is hardly "picking a fault' with a player. Also you're plain wrong with several of the things you said (roby is one of if not the top defender for the last couple of years for example) but I'm not going to be drawn into that.

What's frustrating is Salford fans jumping down the throat of anyone who says anything remotely negative about their team this year.

Plenty of people have doubts how far saints will go this year, that's fine, if people want to question how Walsh will go, that's their prerogative

It's one thing saying how Salford will go and another being ignorant and coming out with stupid remarks about players they have barley even watched on a regular basis.
Let's just keep our negative opinions to our selves and see how the league pans out because I'm sure quite a few people like Roy had Hudds down in 6th place last year, so on that basis and expert review Salford should finish in 7th place.

By that argument no Salford fan can comment on their own team because you haven't seen your players regularly! In fact by that argument no one can make a suitable prediction because no ones seen enough of everyone else - it's called a predictions thread.

As I said, my guess is the views were inflated to make a point. Though whilst his views were potentially misinformed which were actually wrong? (Like yours on the saints team) - even if not, he made his prediction, and the Salford fan got flustered with grand "better tell the doc his investments worth blah blah blah" - and it's happened in other threads too.

Also, show me anywhere Roy has claimed to be an expert? If that's his analysis, there's nothing to say Salford won't be as he predicted, there's nothing so say saints won't be in the bottom 3, but as I said, no ones been asked to defend when they've predicted Salford to be doing better than expected.