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Quote: gutterfax "
If the game is to grow internationally, then the national teams need to have more nationals in them......Italy getting a decent result against Wales will have little positive effect on the game in Italy if most of the team are Australians

Much of what you say is sensible, but this is the point I disagree upon.

You need to take into account the vast range of immigration into Australia, which makes for a very diverse, but not culturally integrated society.

The Italian community is a very good exmplar of the situation.

You ask any italian immigrant, (first second third fourth generation)what is your nationality, and they will respond 'Italian Australian', the same goes for the Greek, Lebanese, Maltese, Tongan, Samoan, Fijian etc. The socialogical ties with their mother country is so strong that they genuinely see themselves as Italian, and through the generations have maintained links with their homeland culture and language. They have strong family links with their homelands and are also seen in their own country as Italians (who happen to live in Australia).

I have no problem with this and is often quite healthy. the key is that there is a league structure in the homeland upon which to build interest and involvement when the Italians beat Wales and a couple of others at the world cup. And it seems there have been some good foundations built in Italy to accomotade the interest that an Italian representative team will generate.

Back to the origional post... I think that the Tongan team is incredibly strong, talented and organised... they will be tough to beat, even for the top teams.

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Quote: gutterfax "
If the game is to grow internationally, then the national teams need to have more nationals in them......Italy getting a decent result against Wales will have little positive effect on the game in Italy if most of the team are Australians

Much of what you say is sensible, but this is the point I disagree upon.

You need to take into account the vast range of immigration into Australia, which makes for a very diverse, but not culturally integrated society.

The Italian community is a very good exmplar of the situation.

You ask any italian immigrant, (first second third fourth generation)what is your nationality, and they will respond 'Italian Australian', the same goes for the Greek, Lebanese, Maltese, Tongan, Samoan, Fijian etc. The socialogical ties with their mother country is so strong that they genuinely see themselves as Italian, and through the generations have maintained links with their homeland culture and language. They have strong family links with their homelands and are also seen in their own country as Italians (who happen to live in Australia).

I have no problem with this and is often quite healthy. the key is that there is a league structure in the homeland upon which to build interest and involvement when the Italians beat Wales and a couple of others at the world cup. And it seems there have been some good foundations built in Italy to accomotade the interest that an Italian representative team will generate.

Back to the origional post... I think that the Tongan team is incredibly strong, talented and organised... they will be tough to beat, even for the top teams.

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Gutterfax in a way I do agree with you as I've said before more countries play union and there international game is light years ahead as a short term fix it works were were going to have more competitive games at the world cup but how many of those Aussies are going to turn out for Italy when there playing Serbia in the European summer cup the answer is none that's were it's wrong

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I'm turning out for Ireland, i had the same haircut as Colin Farrell once and apparently that qualifies me to play, i'm going to smash Gallen.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "I'm turning out for Ireland, i had the same haircut as Colin Farrell once and apparently that qualifies me to play, i'm going to smash Gallen.'"

...I was going to text Gallen a warning, but he can't get to his phone tight now icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "Soooo what your saying is that when you watch international RL you don't want to see players picked on where they are from..... Like Club RL ???
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Quote: gutterfax "...I was going to text Gallen a warning, but he can't get to his phone tight now
I'm 217lb and 6ft 1in, tell him to bring his A-game icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Horatio Yed "I'm turning out for Ireland, i had the same haircut as Colin Farrell once and apparently that qualifies me to play, i'm going to smash Gallen.'"


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Quote: Horatio Yed "I'm 217lb and 6ft 1in, tell him to bring his A-game

Should be a good contest, your 1"1/2 taller and 11lbs lighter.

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Quote: headhunter "No, because 'place of birth' is only one of several accepted eligibility criteria in international sport.'"


So international sport isn't based on where your from ....

And people wonder why RL is looked at in this country as a joke icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "So international sport isn't based on where your from ....

And people wonder why RL is looked at in this country as a joke
So where you're 'from' is purely based on birthplace?

I agree with whoever said it before, the problem is not how these players qualify, it's that they don't play every tournament.

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "So international sport isn't based on where your from ....

And people wonder why RL is looked at in this country as a joke
Name another mainstream sport that has 'Where you're born' as the only eligibility criteria for internationals?

The truth is, all sports have pretty much the same eligibility criteria, and is usually based aroung immigration laws.

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The Internation Eligibility criteria can be found on the RLIF website :

www.rlif.com/about-rlif/laws_regulations
The Internation Eligibility criteria can be found on the RLIF website :

www.rlif.com/about-rlif/laws_regulations


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Quote: Cas Till I Die "So international sport isn't based on where your from ....'"


Which international sport is?

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "So international sport isn't based on where your from ....

And people wonder why RL is looked at in this country as a joke
BTW, I guess you weren't cheering for Mo Farah at the Olympics. Or is athletics a joke too? Or you're just talking complete BS perhaps?

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