A very good call. When we suffer injuries at Saints, people often suggest moving roby to play half back or back row because he can do a decent job, without considering that we're essentially losing a top hooker.

Peoples' motivation is getting the best possible 13(17) together. The attacking role of a 6 and a 1 aren't massively different and if Tomkins has a weakness, its with the high ball. No one mentions, however, that Tomkins is extremely good at marshalling opposition breaks.

He's our best full back, so why play him elsewhere?

George burgess was outstanding again yesterday and should be one of the first names in the 17.

Form prop in the NRL at the moment.

Sam had a great game from LF so should play there.

Think 3 props are nailed on for England in hill, graham and burgess with the 4th place up for grabs.

I'd play rachford in the centres.

Tom burgess is also starting to make an impact now in the souths 17.with luke ready to make a return maybe we could see all four selected?

Tom did ok yesterday, still some work to do.

Think a few SL props are ahead of him.

Not convinced by luke personally.

Tom did ok yesterday, still some work to do.

Think a few SL props are ahead of him.

Not convinced by luke personally.

Tom did ok yesterday, still some work to do.

Think a few SL props are ahead of him.

Not convinced by luke personally.

I'd play Sam at prop and O'Loughlin at 13.

A pack of

Graham
Roby
S burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O loughlin

G Burgess
Hill

With hooker and back row up for grabs still looks as good as any aussie pack.

Our backs look strong, still look weak in the halfs.

Agreed mate, and unlike other years if we get an injury we have some strength in depth to replace them.

Australia could well have the 3rd best pack at this rate, even after taking Tamou/Papalii from NZ via origin.

Aus:
Scott, Tamou, Fifita, Myles, Thaiday, Gallen, Bird, Lewis, Parker, Papalii etc

NZ:
JWH, SBW, Matulino, Bromwich, McKendry, Pritchard, Eastwood, Smith, Glenn, Kasiano etc

Eng:
S.Burgess, Graham, G.Burgess, Hill, Mossop, Crabtree, Westwood, Ellis, O'Loughlin, Hock etc

Think NZ have the edge overall still.

Luke was very good at the back end of this year, but hasn't played a game this season. George is an absolute must, Tom has to do a bit more to earn selection but even after only 3 games is starting to look the part. The thought of George running off Graham's short passing is great - he can be stopped by low tackles and being hit in numbers, but if the defence even half gets it wrong he'll make a half break.

Said it before but for England I'd play Sam second row - he'd be great at prop but our backs need all the help they can get in defence out wide.

TBH if Luke gets any games I'd pick all four Burgii. If nothing else would be good promo material for the WC.

Would definately use sam in the back row,probably at loose as would want westwood and ellis in the side for sure.

We have enough power in the front row with hill,mossop,graham and g burgess to be able to put sam's wide running ability to maximum effect and like brisbanerhino said his wide defending would be a big help.

Would definately use sam in the back row,probably at loose as would want westwood and ellis in the side for sure.

We have enough power in the front row with hill,mossop,graham and g burgess to be able to put sam's wide running ability to maximum effect and like brisbanerhino said his wide defending would be a big help.

Looking at players available, Samoa and Tonga have packs that can compete with the 'big 3'.