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| Quote: SmokeyTA "]Isnt that his third for the same issue? How many do you get?
Regardless, I still ask, why dont we consult the VR on decision like this? and really what is the point of 'on report' as anything can be looked at anyway?'" ]
Looks like this is is second,last one against Hull in April.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Isnt that his third for the same issue? How many do you get?'"
Thankfully you’re not on the panel, he’d have been given at least two games ![]()
I fear you may have been a little disappointed in what the VR would have done in that situation, Cudjoe was warned by the Ref for kneeing Mcguire in the head (hence Mcguire’s reaction) and it is likely that he rather than Mcguire would have been the one punished by the VR. However that incident shouldn’t have been put on report. There was no need, all incidents of striking will be reviewed by the RFL anyway and the Ref clearly saw the incident (spoke to Cudjoe and Mcguire) so was very well in a position to make a decision.
Im not even necessarily arguing Poore had to be sent off, my argument is just if the referee sees an incident he should deal with it there and then, if he doesn’t see it well enough there is a trained referee with access to multiple angles and slo-motion who should see it well enough, he should deal with it. If he can’t for whatever reason (borderline, poor/obstructed view) then fine, leaving for the panel, but if an incident can be dealt with on the field it should.
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| Good lord, have rugby league fans gone soft or what? Reading some of these posts and the crap that Peter Gentle spouted, anyone would think Poore had taken a machete on the field and set about McDonnell's neck and back with it.
He merely picked him up and dumped him to the floor. Let's not forget, this sort of thing used to happen every week and was applauded, especially by tweedle dee and tweedle dum in the Sky commentary box. Now there is uproar when the slightest bit of aggression is shown by a player and it annoys the life out me when a hypocritical Stevo jumps on the bandwagon saying 'there's no place for this in our game', when only a few seasons ago he was cheering it on like a naughty school boy observing a playground fight.
There's no wonder the game is on its ar$e.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "There's no wonder the game is on its ar$e.'"
It really isn't.
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| It's a sad state of affairs when an innocuous tackle is picked over in fine detail in a desperate search for reasons to penalise a player; equally sad when the opposition coach appoints himself judge, jury and executioner and pronounces his verdict in the media before the panel has even had a look - bit of desperation in all that hysterical nonsense about 'disgusting' and 'spinal units.'
In the end, the tackle looked a bit ugly, but the player was placed on his back and there was no harm done - a bit messy, warned about technique, job done.
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| not to turn this into a cas v wakey argument but Justin carney got banned for 3 matches(yes his record this season didn't help) for arguably a softer challenge in the London match,poores challenge much worse and he kops a caution(as he been summed before the panel regarding tackles this season????) if not then even if it his first offence then he should still of been handed atleast a 1 match ban
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| Quote: the machine 87 "not to turn this into a cas v wakey argument but Justin carney got banned for 3 matches(yes his record this season didn't help) for arguably a softer challenge in the London match,poores challenge much worse and he kops a caution(as he been summed before the panel regarding tackles this season????) if not then even if it his first offence then he should still of been handed atleast a 1 match ban'"
As if by magic, an example appears!
FYI - the two challenges were worlds apart; the Poore/Aiton tackle started off messy but fortunately for everyone involved Aiton tidied it up, leaving the Hull player on his back and no worse for wear.
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| Quote: the machine 87 "not to turn this into a cas v wakey argument but Justin carney got banned for 3 matches(yes his record this season didn't help) for arguably a softer challenge '"
Whether a challenge is hard or soft is not the basis for whether it is legal or illegal. You and the Sky commentators should bear that in mind.
For example Stevo in commentary seemed to react to another challenge by Poore on Ellis where it was a good hard shot but perfectly legal imo, but of course Stevo was shouting for a penalty and bleating how the referee missed it.
There are too many soft penalties given in UK games as it is at the moment but there seems to be more and more dissection of petty incidents looking for reasons to penalise folk, especially on this forum.
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| Quote: bren2k "As if by magic, an example appears!
FYI - the two challenges were worlds apart; the Poore/Aiton tackle started off messy but fortunately for everyone involved Aiton tidied it up, leaving the Hull player on his back and no worse for wear.'"
so when aiton isn't their next time and he breaks a players neck what will be the excuse to justify it????
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| Quote: the machine 87 "so when aiton isn't their next time and he breaks a players neck what will be the excuse to justify it????'"
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| Quote: the machine 87 "so when aiton isn't their next time and he breaks a players neck what will be the excuse to justify it????'"
Unless you've perfected that flux capacitor and fitted it to a DeLorean, I fail to see how the disciplinary panel can penalise for offences that haven't yet happened; he was warned to his future conduct - with the current technology available to us, I'm reasonably sure that's as far as they can go.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Isnt that his third for the same issue? How many do you get?
Regardless, I still ask, why dont we consult the VR on decision like this? and really what is the point of 'on report' as anything can be looked at anyway?'"
The point is to make a correct decision with the benefit of hindsight. Job done, anyone who understands the game will tell you it was nothing more than a messy slam tackle - common sense prevails.
You mate want it all ways.
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| Shocking tackle, lifted players legs over the horizontal, only his team mate prevented serious injury. Shocking decision by the disciplinary panel.
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| I bet the wakey fans wouldn't be so defensive if it was a hull player doing the same to one of their players!
it was a dangerous tackle, should've carried atleast a 1 game ban!
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