Exactly.

"Invest and make your club better, somehow persuade fans to turn up in great numbers because Nigel Wood think the competition is 'worth winning in its own right' and maybe, just maybe, we'll offer you a shot at Super League at some unspecified time of our choosing. Whether you will get in or not will of course depend on what we happen to think about other clubs and how many teams we feel like having at the time. Anyhow good luck."

Really, Smokey, you're a business expert - explain to me how a championship clubs takes that to the bank or an investor. You're as clueless as the clown in charge you respect so highly.

Complete nonsense. Are clubs not allowed to expand capacity and, with investment, *become* SL-worthy? Remind me of Catalan's attendances and ground capacity in 1990. Nobody has the right to say town [x] can *never* have a Super League team. Why does the town of Widnes have any more right to "hope" than the town of Dewsbury?

Clubs are very well entitled to improve their facilities, businesses and stadiums. When they do we can take that in to account. We just shouldn’t take into account the things you have invented in your head that may or may not happen in the future. Les Catalans didnt exist in 1990, but regardless of that strange example, It should be self-evident to an adult human that if things change they will be different.

Widnes have no more right to an SL club than Dewsbury, Leeds have no more right to an SL club than Dewsbury. They just have a club capable of being an SL club. Dewsbury doesn’t.

Dewsbury doesn’t lack hope for an SL club because of franchising. Dewsbury lacks hope for an SL club because they lack a club with the capability of being in SL.

Better to go and ask your fans for money through bucket collections than go begging the council tax payer again for 200 grand

That's for that. And your take on the point that was actually being made....?

I don’t think lower league clubs are expected to run SL level set ups. I don’t think anybody expects the same from a lower league club as an SL club.

As I have said before, the ‘competitive’ aspect of the franchising process is unhelpful. Lower league clubs shouldn’t aim to be better than the worst SL club, they should aim to be the best they can be and if that is good enough they should be promoted. If it isn’t, they shouldn’t.

Let's hope that the franchise criteria has been changed then in terms of the number of academy sides that a club needs to run. As far as I know, several Championship clubs will still be running both an Under 18's and an Under 20's this season.

woosh.

Whereas Wrexham had a club ready to set the League alight.

I know, as I’ve explained, I’m not a teacher, but I can help you with your comprehensions skills a little bit. Try reading the whole sentence, and things will become a bit clearer. When you just pick words out of a sentence and ignore other ones, that’s probably why you get confused.

Wrexham didn’t have a 3.5k stadium.

Happy to help

Worked out well for Crusaders then? You know, the "you must have a big stadium" criteria? I'm so glad I got to rattle around in it. I find RL games boring when you're not able to play a cricket match in the stand to pass the time.

Yes, your bringing up of Celtic Crusaders failure is clearly a great argument in favour of your position that Dewsbury should be able to be promoted to SL. After all Celtic had a big stadium and failed, just cos they have a big stadium doesnt mean they would get more fans, its not like Celtic Crusaders average attendance in their first year was 3668 which is 168 higher than the maximum capacity of Dewsburys stadium is it.............Oh

Remove the junior development aspect of your post and I actually agree, junior develoment of SL players should not be ' tasked ' to non SL clubs, non SL clubs should be judged on their development of non SL players

Personally I think we should either go all out franchising or P&R. If it was all out franchising then there should be a closed shop and clubs like York should become a feeder for Hull and Hunslet for Leeds. There should be no under 18 20 or whatever at the SL clubs, this should be at the feeder clubs. I think this is the way forward if the RFL want franchising. If not then P&R should be brought in.