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Quote: vastman "Greater Manchester is a metropolitan county NOT a city, schoolboy error. The City of Manchester is within Greater Manchester.

Hence Wigan is not in Manchester the city and never has been. Salford is a City in the County of Greater Manchester. However unlike the town of Wigan the City of Salford borders the city of Manchester. So though not actually in Manchester, Salford is by far the nearest RL club to Manchester's proper and de-facto is Manchester's RL team.

Hope that helps.'"


That's a spectacularly useless piece of pedantry that helps absolutely nobody.

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Quote: Chris Dalton "That's a spectacularly useless piece of pedantry that helps absolutely nobody.'"


Maybe but it's is more than in keeping with the style of the VT, ya big wally. c015.gif

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Quote: vastman "OK, for the terminally stupid.

The first set of clubs doesn't exist, will never exist and would all fail if they ever did. I'm aware one already has failed and would do again. I'm also aware another exists, however it only exists as a SL standard club in the minds of a few deluded loons.

As for flatcappers, lets talk real ones - how about the actual flatcapper - Featherstone. A totally viable club and always was or Halifax or even Sheffield.

Better still why not keep a real SL club in and the only one in Manchester - support it short term as per Bradford and or the RFL find a saviour as per Wakefield - or is that simply too easy.'"

But hasn't the RFL spent its money saving the iconic Odsal? I'm so happy they did that - imagine if we lost the only SL ground with a dog-track...it doesn't bear thinking about.

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Quote: vastman "
Quote: vastman "Is this the REAL SL club in Manchester who have just called off the friendly with Leigh with 9 days notice after tickets and corporate had been on sale for weeks.

Salford are now dead as a club, lets hope the phoenix can rise again from C1 soon.'"


Yes actually, the club is very real - it's the business that isn't as was the case with Wakefield and Bradford.

Salford is not dead, as indeed Wakefield and Bradford were not dead - just the business that ran them.

The club and the business are not the same. The club lasts forever, however it cannot run without a business. A bit like a car without petrol, it's won't work but it's still a car - once petrol is found it runs again.

Why should Salford rise again in C1, Bradford and Wakefield didn't. If they can fulfil their opening fixtures and find a buyer even if going bust first then a SL place is theirs - why a different rule for them.

I'm all for Leigh or any other club getting a crack at SL, but not this way - not until Salford are pronounced dead by someone with more credibility than this forum could ever manage..

It's not over for Salford the club just yet, it is probably over for the current regime.'"


Wow. Just wow.

Has the notion of franchising and licencing totally passed you by? Actually, it has for the RFL so carry on squire.


Salford hoodwinked the RFL and so did Bradford. It is clear that both clubs were in deep crap when they submitted their last applications. How many more?

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You saying their application had at best "speculative" financial projections?

Surely not, you'd never be let into super league with those now eh? Especially when you're turning a profit!

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Quote: littlerich "Wow. Just wow.

Has the notion of franchising and licencing totally passed you by? Actually, it has for the RFL so carry on squire.


Salford hoodwinked the RFL and so did Bradford. It is clear that both clubs were in deep crap when they submitted their last applications. How many more?'"


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Can't.....resist....the bitter rant forming inside me....but must......

All is well comrade!

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Quote: vastman "Maybe but it's is more than in keeping with the style of the VT, ya big wally.
Only because you post here all the time.

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The simple answer is Salford are not allowed to fold, they are supported until the end of the licence period, then decisions are then taken on how the sport progresses, but not the sham we have seen for the last 4 years

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Featherstone Rovers or Leigh Centurions

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If they wanted to keep the magic weekend then they could easily turn the weekend into a knockout cup.

DAY 1.
The team that tops the league the weekend before the event gets a bye to day 2.
A Draw will be made for the remaining 12 teams who willl then play 40min games (20min halves)all games will be complete first day (6 matches).
Lowest scoring team goes out of the event.
(if more than 1 team has the lowest score, than the team sitting lowest in the league the weekend before the event will not progress to day 2.)
DAY 2.
A Draw will be made with the inclusion of the highest league placed team.
3 matches will take place for round 1 of the 2nd day with the highest league placed losing side to progress to round 2(semi final) 2nd day.
The final will be played as a normal 80min match with the Winners lifting a cup.

No league points awarded, every team barring the highest league placed side playing on day 1 so should be a crowd puller. Unsure of who the opponents will be so no excuse as to not bother going.
As every game bar the final are only played over 2 20min halves then there should be alot more intesity in the games.
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So we have some players who think we shouldn't have the Magic Weekend because we play too many games, so what we'll do is ask them to play 2 full games in 2 days. Ok then.

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Quote: Brenio "If they wanted to keep the magic weekend then they could easily turn the weekend into a knockout cup.

DAY 1.
The team that tops the league the weekend before the event gets a bye to day 2.
A Draw will be made for the remaining 12 teams who willl then play 40min games (20min halves)all games will be complete first day (6 matches).
Lowest scoring team goes out of the event.
(if more than 1 team has the lowest score, than the team sitting lowest in the league the weekend before the event will not progress to day 2.)
DAY 2.
A Draw will be made with the inclusion of the highest league placed team.
3 matches will take place for round 1 of the 2nd day with the highest league placed losing side to progress to round 2(semi final) 2nd day.
The final will be played as a normal 80min match with the Winners lifting a cup.

No league points awarded, every team barring the highest league placed side playing on day 1 so should be a crowd puller. Unsure of who the opponents will be so no excuse as to not bother going.
As every game bar the final are only played over 2 20min halves then there should be alot more intesity in the games.
If I have missed anything then please feel free to comment I think your definition of easily is different to everyone else's.

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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!:



I'd like Leigh or Sheffield BUT based on merit, only Halifax were in a position worthy of being considered for SL at the last lot of licensing.

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Replace them with nobody, then relegate another team in 2013.

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Leigh are just Salford in disguise. No fans, a stadium they dont own. Fev are too small and their fans are a disgrace. Sheffield have no fans and no stadium. Fax are the best bet.

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