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| Quote: SmokeyTA "In an uneven season, St’s won hubcap by a grand total of 1 point in 2007 and 1 point in 2008.
Im not sure that should have much of an effect on anything, never mind judging a players consistency.'"
My point was that, regardless of whether it was won by 1 or 100 points, Saints still topped the table 2005 - 2008 and therefore were the most consistent team over that period...therefore not sure what the guy talking about "beaten Saints players pinching MoS" was on about!
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| If Tomkins doesn't receive the award I'll be embarrassed for his fellow professionals.
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| Quote: richardviking "If Tomkins doesn't receive the award I'll be embarrassed for his fellow professionals.'"
It depends who the nominees are. If three backs are picked, then I agree. However, whilst most fans and pundits will pick the most exciting player, the players imo would lean towards the enforcers.
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| Rémi Casty, he has been outstanding this season.
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| Quote: wakey_saint "My point was that, regardless of whether it was won by 1 or 100 points, Saints still topped the table 2005 - 2008 and therefore were the most consistent team over that period...therefore not sure what the guy talking about "beaten Saints players pinching MoS" was on about!'"
And as I said, there was 1 point covering Leeds and St’s in 2007 and 2008 in an uneven season. A difference so small, and an uneven season, means that (between those two clubs) the League Table isn’t a measure of consistency.
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "The fact that Luke Burgess is playing there suggests there are quite a few British forwards who are more than 'capable'. Hock and Roby for starters...'"
You reckon - Hock would be shown up - Roby would be ordinary - Luke Burgess is cannon fodder and keeps his brother company, surely you'd worked that ot.
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| Quote: richardviking "If Tomkins doesn't receive the award I'll be embarrassed for his fellow professionals.'"
Agreed.
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| Lets hope McNamara has nothing to do with the decision otherwise it'll be a Leeds player seeing as he's picked 9 of them in his England squad named today.
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| I agree with Nozzy....
Westwood
Tomkins
Dureau
in that order for me.
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| Quote: Rondo1 "I agree with Nozzy....
Westwood
Tomkins
Dureau
in that order for me.'"
His injury picked up in the cup final will probably rule Ben Westwood out of the running as he wont be playing for a few weeks (maybe for the rest of the season) therefore unable to "make on impact" on the voters.
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| ^ A lot of the players have already voted and some (Jamie Peacock for one) have announced their selections on Twitter.
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| Quote: Derwent "Lets hope McNamara has nothing to do with the decision otherwise it'll be a Leeds player seeing as he's picked 9 of them in his England squad named today.'"
No worries there, the last Leeds player to win MoS was Iestyn Harris in 1998.
And vastman, do you honestly think a top team like Souths with an obsessively professional coach like Maguire would pick 'cannon fodder' simply to keep another player in the squad happy? The fact is that Luke was fairly average in SL, yet has established himself in the NRL. This suggests lots of other forwards could make the transition, does it not?
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| here is one for the Wigan fans, Tim Smith has been outstanding this year and i cant think of any other player who has been as good and as more consistent as Danny Kirmond, i know these guys wont get a look in because they are not at Wigan Saints or Leeds but they have been top form this year
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| Quote: vastman "You reckon - Hock would be shown up - Roby would be ordinary - Luke Burgess is cannon fodder and keeps his brother company, surely you'd worked that ot.'"
obviously you don't watch souths much then
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| Quote: Derwent "Lets hope McNamara has nothing to do with the decision otherwise it'll be a Leeds player seeing as he's picked 9 of them in his England squad named today.'"
Ablett, Burrow, Hall, Hardaker, Jones-Bishop, Jones-Buchanan, McGuire, Sinfield & Watkins.
The only one who hasn't played well recently is Jones-Buchanan. I don't think his performances warrant a place this season compared to other second rowers. The rest I really don't think are unreasonable selections, most have been good for Leeds behind an often beaten pack.
As for MoS, I think Tomkins should be the front runner, but then I think Finch has been superb for Wigan, Westwood has been devastating for Wire, and I'd throw in someone like Remi Casty as well.
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