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More often than not crowd trouble occurs in RL at a game that has been built up into a special event and as such attracts a crowd much larger than would usually be expected. This inevitably includes a limited number of individuals who don't normally attend matches and are there principally to stir up trouble.

As a Cas fan I attended a number of games at Post Office road in the 2 seasons that Cas spent outside of superleague and never saw any significant trouble. There was a degree of mouthing off by young 'cappers outside of the ground to Cas fans after the game but the club can't be blamed for that and of course nothing ever results from that unless the people being mouthed off at choose to react.

That said, I was at the Wakey game on Good Friday stood near the front of the North terrace and was completely unaware that any trouble had gone on until reading about it on the forums after the game. When we came out of the ground at the end we were shocked by the number of police outside and passed comment about it not being a football match!

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Quote: pyeman "As do I with any Cas fans that were at fault.'"


Then despite the crossed wires we both want the same thing.
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I notice that all clubs say they will be ban for life do these people also get a heavy fine and taken to court. The reason I ask is firstly I don't know but if they have only come to cause bother banning them wont hurt that much it would only hurt if they were supporters that turn up all the time

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Quote: pyeman "The incident was before the game'"

Well I was in the north stand from 6:30 and never saw or heard fireworks being thrown. Stood in north stand all match didnt see no trouble at all it was only when I was on line when I got home that trouble was mentioned Si can't have been that bad. Cas fans trying to get WTRLFC fined I reckon.

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Quote: pyeman "The incident was before the game'"

Well I was in the north stand from 6:30 and never saw or heard fireworks being thrown. Stood in north stand all match didnt see no trouble at all it was only when I was on line when I got home that trouble was mentioned Si can't have been that bad. Cas fans trying to get WTRLFC fined I reckon.

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "Well I was in the north stand from 6

From the video footage it looks like the fireworks were outside a pub and the bottles were towards the back of the stand.

The club also needs to stick some lights onto that roof by the looks of things icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Wildthing "I was there and it was both supporters causing trouble, not one set only.
Funny how there was trouble at Cas V Hull KR, Cas V Hull FC, Wakefield V Cas and yet some Cas supporters
seem to think there fans were totally blameless in all games!

Wakefield V Hull KR was played a month or so ago and was attended by a similar crowd to the one last
week and not a hint of trouble. Funny that eh?'"


I'm not saying both supporters weren't involved. But it's a futile argument - Cas fans believe Wakey fans threw the first bottle, Wakey other way. I didn't see. But the one I did see came from the Wakey end and the Cas fans retaliated. Both as bad each other.

The fact remains, however, that it shouldn't have even been in that position in the first place. An unnecessary divide was created and the said divide was poorly stewarded/policed.

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Quote: Gronk! "From the video footage it looks like the fireworks were outside a pub and the bottles were towards the back of the stand.

The club also needs to stick some lights onto that roof by the looks of things So a firework was thrown outside a pub not in the ground, which pub was it because they're all closed in Belle Vue apart from the conny club

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Quote: Gronk! "From the video footage it looks like the fireworks were outside a pub '"


Which pub I know most of them in wakefield I can check the CCTV that is outside most of them icon_thumb.gif , what day was the video taken (for sure) how do we know they "WERE" wakefield fans that through them?
Ever heard of staged viral videos? icon_wink.gif

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Reading this you'd think world war 3 had broken out. It was such a big issue i didn't even notice anything and i was maybe 150 meters away! And having spoken to someone who was in that area of the stand the incident started with both sets of fans chanting at each other. A few bottles were thrown from BOTH sides and a handful of fans from either club got ejected from the stadium. And that was that. Punish the individual culprits and put plans in place to ensure it doesn't happen again. End of story.

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Quote: financialtimes "Which pub I know most of them in wakefield I can check the CCTV that is outside most of them
You can't see the pub name but a couple of the people involved do post on here so see if they post.

They were in Wakefield shirts which is quite the giveaway though icon_wink.gif

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Isn't it nice to see a Fev bashing when there is a chance.

I've seen Fev home & away for the last 17 years and only heard about 3 incidents and 1 of those is unproven as to what has happened. As for the incident with Fax in the NRC semi final, many fans got life bans, security and stewarding has improved considerably since then. What you hear and read on these forums are so far from the truth it occasionally boards on slanderous.

The old place will be almost full and have a tremendous atmosphere infront of the sky cameras.

Cas should win and well, but it's a local derby in the cup - anything can happen.

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Quote: Chris.Taylor "Isn't it nice to see a Fev bashing when there is a chance.

I've seen Fev home & away for the last 17 years and only heard about 3 incidents and 1 of those is unproven as to what has happened. As for the incident with Fax in the NRC semi final, many fans got life bans, security and stewarding has improved considerably since then. What you hear and read on these forums are so far from the truth it occasionally boards on slanderous.

The old place will be almost full and have a tremendous atmosphere infront of the sky cameras.

Cas should win and well, but it's a local derby in the cup - anything can happen.'"


Two of my favourite teams and a "real" local derby. I expect Cas to come out on top but you never know. I hope its remembered for the stuff on and not off the pitch.

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Quote: Gronk! "They were in Wakefield shirts which is quite the giveaway though

Yeah pretty conclusive, stronger proof than DNA icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Cecil B "When we came out of the ground at the end we were shocked by the number of police outside and passed comment about it not being a football match!'"


This really gets my back up the whole "its not football" thing, I am a season ticket holder at Liverpool that goes home and away, and I can honestly say that I have seen far, far more trouble in the last 5 years at rugby league games than I have football.

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