Neither team would have scored in a brothel in that first half. Usually in tight games like that it's a case of waiting to see whose defence cracks first - today, though, I was simply waiting to see which team could make the passes stick. As it turns out, it was FC in the second half who got it together.

You echo my thoughts exactly mate.I had the same problem today,,Think is was the Saints/Wire game last week when this glich came up and in the end i ended up watching the remaining 30-35 minutes on Standard Definition which by the way,the sound was fine....

Out of interest, how big is the difference between standard and high definition for watching sports matches? I only have standard sky (sky+, not skyHD) but I've never had any issues with the quality of the sports matches on it.

Why does anyone still care what Lister says about anything? He's a proven WUM.

Personally i think its great,,the only prob is its a extra tenner a month but if you watch something on 401 hd and then swich to 408 sd,,,the difference in quality is striking...

despite the face that both teams did (score tries that is, not in a brothel admittedly)

Aye, but it was a very long time in coming, maybe my expectations were simply too high? My issue wasn't so much the lack of scoring, but the fact it came about from some really pretty terrible last tackle options or pushing passes when it wasn't needed (I was kind of hoping to see something a bit better than that since I've watched it at Warrington so far season )

I must admit, i thought it was one of the 'tamest' Hull derbies I have ever seen.

Then again Sts V Wigan wasn't the 'blood and thunder' you would come to expect either.

I noticed that. There wasn't much aggression on show this year. I blame it on Clint Newton's departure, he was a great pantomime villain who usually got things fired up.

Possibly because we both have coaches now that realise that the game isn't the be all and end all, that there's more to the season than the 2 (or 3) derbies.

I enjoyed it, the Hull forwards looked like they could have waited for a week for The KR forwards to roll over into submission.

I actually liked the guy,even though he was always trying to wind us Hull fans up.

You must have a very short memory. Seem to remember many Saints and Wigan derbys (Cardiff ring a bell?) that were over almost before they began. Now they were like watching paint dry.