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All it takes for London to succeed is a good coach which they haven't had since Tony Currie left. I'm tired of saying that but it's true.

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Quote: vastman "Bust without Sky money and other SL revenues not available to Leigh.'"


I know you have short memories up there but...

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London are propped up by a wealthy backer. Whilst he is there then there are no financial issues

We've had Sheffield. What has Nottingham got to offer? or does this have a strategic military supply site on your mythical route to Marchwood docks

I mentioned the M62 as the strategic sites you used are located close by, but to your credit (covertly) and to strengthen your weak argument you have now moved your supply lines down the M1.

What is your argument as you are a moving target this morning?

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Quote: vastman "Bust without Sky money and other SL revenues not available to Leigh - do you think Leigh would be bust with Sky money and SL gates. London could not do a Cas or HKR and survive in the lower leagues without continually folding like they did pre SL. All teams would struggle but most would continue to exist.'"

London aren't bust because owner after owner has been prepared to fund them. If the current owner was prepared to do the same in the 'lower leagues' then they'd survive about as well as other teams in those leagues. If not they'd have problems - like Leigh, in fact.

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Quote: east stander "London are propped up by a wealthy backer. Whilst he is there then there are no financial issues

We've had Sheffield. What has Nottingham got to offer? or does this have a strategic military supply site on your mythical route to Marchwood docks

I mentioned the M62 as the strategic sites you used are located close by, but to your credit (covertly) and to strengthen your weak argument you have now moved your supply lines down the M1.

What is your argument as you are a moving target this morning?'"


The main issue is thier popularity (or lack of it)
No other club would be tollerated with gates around 2500-3000.
The issues surrounding whether London is critical to Sky negotiations are not clear.
Do Sky wan to show games with empty stadiums, because this never looks good.
I have nothing against the Broncos and always enjoy the trips down south, but they are going nowhere fast.
You say that we've HAD Sheffield and they were certainly had with thier "merger", but this was genuine expansion.
What would be your cure for the difficulties in the capatal ?

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Quote: McClennan "All it takes for London to succeed is a good coach which they haven't had since Les Kiss left. I'm tired of saying that but it's true.'"


Slight amendment there RB.

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Aye, replace them with a successful heartland club with a history of sound financial management - like Halifax for example.

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Quote: Big Graeme "Slight amendment there RB.'"


Wow! Less Kiss. I'd even forgotten he'd existed lol.

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I have no problem with the Broncos. They have the finances to be in the League and their team isnt that bad at all. Yes they may have considerably less fans than everyone else but the fact that they are sound financially and have one of the better stadiums in the League. The best idea would be to do what the Rhinos did with the Tykes a few years back offering discounted sometimes free tickets to watch the game and try and drip some of them into coming back more often. Even reduce the prices if they show their Harlequins season pass?

League fans are catasrophically one eyed. How are we meant to market and advertise our game to potential investors if there isnt some form of representation in the wealthier south? There isnt the money in the North to keep our game solely up here, like it or not we need the South to survive. Union will dominate the South but at the end of the day we cant just give up without a fight.

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Quote: vastman "Well we can argue all day as to whether London get backhanders or not but that's the problem with backhanders - hard to prove either way.'"
No. In the real world facts made up by you and actual facts are not given equal weighting.

Quote: vastman "So what about 15 years of Sky money? Does this not count, could another club not have used it better? This is one of the big issues expansionists skirt around - have London justified getting a cut of this money for 15 years. This money is not London's by right or had you just assumed it was?'"
I'm fed up of Wakefield. This experiment has been going on for 117 years and yet they still are playing in a crappy stadium and, despite those famous local playing resources, fail consistently to prove their worth to SL on the pitch. Get rid for mine. All that money could be better used elsewhere.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "
Quote: Andy Gilder "total waste of time and money'"


Aye, replace them with a successful heartland club with a history of sound financial management - like Halifax for example.


Halifax went bust in 1990

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Quote: wrencat1873 "The main issue is thier popularity (or lack of it)
No other club would be tollerated with gates around 2500-3000.'"

Really? And your evidence for this is...?

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Quote: MjM "No. In the real world facts made up by you and actual facts are not given equal weighting.

I'm fed up of Wakefield. This experiment has been going on for 117 years and yet they still are playing in a crappy stadium and, despite those famous local playing resources, fail consistently to prove their worth to SL on the pitch. Get rid for mine. All that money could be better used elsewhere.'"


That is so poor. c020.gif

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It's all well and good heartlanders slagging off London but they've been to Wembley at least once in the professional era. Who else can say that?

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Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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