Many will disagree with this, but what exactly do Salford have to entice in people who fundamentally see sport as having a pyramid system that has teams playing either to win something or to avoid relegation

Salford last entered SL 3 years ago, how many games have they won since? , are their fans going to see them win any more in the next 3 years than they did in the last 3 ?

I am constantly ridiculed and my opinions devalued by suggesting I am bitter that my club aren't in SL, why would I want Leigh to be in the same position as Salford? , how can you be expected to build a club in their position? , their season is esentially over already, they will be battling with Widnes to avoid the wooden spoon , a trophy in itself that no longer has the ' value ' to avoid

The lack of P and R will ultimatly damage the game, both at Championship level, and SL level

It wasn't helped by the club seemingly throwing the majority of their marketing eggs in a campaign that started 3 days before the game.

Would that be to the detriment of FC?

Just what positives do Salford have to use as a marketing tool to entice new / ex fans?

A few years ago you could have said nearly all of that about Huddersfield.

The problem is Iain, even if as they should have done and given out 10,000 free tickets, the weather would have still decimated the attendance, I really think JW must have run over a whole box load of black cats

Another club moving in to the top8 could be at the detriment to HullFC yes, but it would add more competition and make us improve further to keep our place in the top8. With the BBC moving to Salford, the area is gaining even more importance nationally, and SL can't afford to miss out on the publicity.

and yes, the biggest tool any club can use to gain new fans is success...but I still feel Salford could have made a better effort than they did for this fixture.

Hull opened the KC in 2003 with a fixture against London (possibly the least attractive home game on the calendar) but still marketed it and gave out free/cheap tickets to council staff etc to fill the ground up and make it feel like an event.

If they had given our 10K free tickets, yes a good thousand, even 2 thousand may have been put off by the weather...but they would have still had 8/9K in the ground. The fact is they didn't bother to do much with the marketing, the same die-hards turned up...and they started the season with a defeat and the same problems in attracting new fans to the club.

I did, and tell me, what has changed? , Huddersfield are still not a viable stand on their own two feet SL club, Kens millions are still needed every year to prop them up, and try to get the local population interested, take it away and they'd be back down with the Reds in couple of years, maybe another 10/15 years and they might be susstainable

Have to agree.
Lets see how Salfords attendance are a few months into the campaign before needlesly lambsasting them!

But they wont be anywhere near the top 8 , even we gave them a good hiding in the 1 st match, it isn't just success, it is playing for ' something ' , at the moment they are essentially playing 27 friendlies

As I said, even freebies wouldnt have turned up, and you are correct, their marketing has been rubbish at best , but people arent stupid, no club can build itself with the prospect of losing most of its home games year on year

you just cannot help yourself can you but to have a dig at cas.

the home support is a worry,ive read all the excuses but it didnt stop 1500 cas fans going over the pennines on a road which was barely passable to get there and the m62 resembled a car park on the way home,hope everyone made it home safely.

the game was what anyone could expect given the conditions,both teams tried to play rugby on a night when if it hadnt been a sky tv game would have been called OFF.

the stadium is basic and there were a few teething problems but it will be decent place to go in the summer and it does have the feel of a rugby ground.

The crowd was 50% up on the corresponding fixture from last season.

What more can you ask for?
If it had been on another day, without snow it might have been higher, but 5k+ in that weather on Friday night TV game isn't bad at all.

If Salford keep up that level of increase there will be a lot of embarrassed pundits about.

As for Huddersfield, it isn't a standalone club but it is moving their and that's ultimately the long term goal. I'd suggest that only Leeds and Wigan could truly claim to be standalone.

Oh and no way did 1500 Cas fans travel. It always amazes me the sheer stupidity of numbers suggested for away fans in these situations.
500 Cas fans tops.

you are right i underestimated it ,the club chaiman has just put out a statement saying we sold over 1800 tickets.

Correct.

You have to admit though, these parochial scenes of well-meaning but inept match-day organisation don't do us any favours when they're on the telly.

I doubt it.

If I'd been given free tickets to an outdoor sport I'd never had any previous interest in, and the weather was as bad as it was for Salford/Cas, and I had *any* other distraction than work to keep me warm and indoors on a Saturday night, I'd not have gone. Imagine if it wasn't RL, but lacrosse or shinty. Would you have bothered?

Free tickets aren't enough - there has to be some incentive. In that kind of weather you need a better incentive than when it's warm, sunny and pleasant to be outdoors.