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| If they have paid a bargain price and are serious about developing a ' national home ' in a similar vien to twickenham? , then fine, if this is just to save a member club? , oh dear
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| Quote: SaintsFan "They could have made up the difference to Saints who lost over a million quid on Knowsley Road thanks to the economic downturn.'"
What land would they have owned in return for the million quid?
Quote: SaintsFan "They could have bought Castleford's stadium off them so they could move into their new place.'"
That's not a parallel - they would have nobody to rent the stadium too like they do in this instance.
Quote: SaintsFan "They could provide Oldham with a decent place to play so that they wouldn't keep having to endure thefts and vandalism.'"
They're not a charity - they must see something in this long term. I'm not sure many people with much sense would buy a stadium for Oldham and wait for the cash to flow in from rent . . . . .
Quote: SaintsFan "In fact, there are a host of other stadia that the RFL could have bought or invested in which would result in the team playing there being able to continue. But the RFL hasn't stepped in. '"
It's difficult to see what is going on here until we get the full facts, but it's likely to be a commercial proposition for the RFL whereby they can buy some land and get Bradford to finance it through rent. I'd be surprised if they were investing in the Bulls for charity's sake. There will be a reason and I'm sure that reason is in the game's best interests and makes commercial sense for the governing body.
Quote: SaintsFan "They shouldn't have stepped in at Odsal either. It compromises the RFL.'"
I don't think so, it shows they are willing to think outside the box if a commercial opportunity arises that may benefit the game.
To the upset Wakey fans - I see your point (although it's far from a direct parallel) but the brutal truth is that losing the Bulls would impact the game and its value to broadcasters far more than losing Wakey. All IMO of course.
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| So next years MM weekend will be in
Bradford
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| Quote: Odem "At the end of the day RL doesn't have a home whereas all the other top sports in the country do.
Football - Wembley
Rugby Union - Twickenham
Tennis - Wimbledon
Cricket - Lords
Golf - St Andrews
Athletics - Olympic stadium
Motorsport - Silverstone
Many minor sports will now have a home as part of the Olympic legacy.
Our sport needs something to own. Somewhere to play our big games. Keep the finals at Old Trafford and Wembley because it works but we need a semi-final venue we won't have to pay rent for, a finals day venue we won't have to pay rent for, an international venue we actually own as a sport. Somewhere we can rent out for concerts and other events, the place could potentially make a tidy profit for the RFL. Most of the profit for the RFU comes from Twickenham.
Stick a fancy roof all around Odsal, do the place up, give it the things it needs to be a classy modern day venue along with the old fashioned RL style venue. It would look like nothing else in the UK.'"
Its just that easy isnt it. Dont factor in any costs what so ever, lets just have these fantasies that Odsal will be amazingly transformed into a world class venue. Odsal is nowhere near the standard needed for premier games and it will take alot of money (that isnt there) and time to change that. Great deal for Bradford though.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "
To the upset Wakey fans - I see your point (although it's far from a direct parallel) but the brutal truth is that losing the Bulls would impact the game and its value to broadcasters far more than losing Wakey. All IMO of course.'"
So we have the ' Animal Farm ' SDL?
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| I don't think it's a coincidence that the RFL have bought the stadium with the biggest capacity, and i'd say by far the most amount of land and room for expansion of any club.
I'm quite optimistic about this, as an earlier poster said earlier, RL needs a home. Odsal fits the bill for me.
And if next years MM is in Bradford-good! Let's start making some money for our game rather than paying everyone else to use their facilities.
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| Quote: Starbug "If they have paid a bargain price and are serious about developing a ' national home ' in a similar vien to twickenham? , then fine, if this is just to save a member club? , oh dear
Exactly what I have been saying for years, a national home for RL, if it brought in a fraction of the amount Twickers does or a similar amount to Murrayfield would pour millions into the game every year.
Whether Odsal fits that bill I don't know but it will be interesting to see how things pan out.
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| Quote: Odem "The stadium already meets the current criteria, therefore it changes nothing.'"
The stadium meets the current criteria [inow[/i. This move seemingly means that the Bulls can relax knowing that it will always meet the criteria in future without them having to spend a penny on it. That's not a unique situation in itself, but the fact that it's the RFL who have enabled it is.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That's not the point, really, though is it? The point is why do this for Bradford when there are numerous other clubs struggling with ageing premises that have not had the same assistance.
They could have made up the difference to Saints who lost over a million quid on Knowsley Road thanks to the economic downturn.
They could have bought Castleford's stadium off them so they could move into their new place.
They could provide Oldham with a decent place to play so that they wouldn't keep having to endure thefts and vandalism.
In fact, there are a host of other stadia that the RFL could have bought or invested in which would result in the team playing there being able to continue. But the RFL hasn't stepped in.
They shouldn't have stepped in at Odsal either. It compromises the RFL.'"
Were those stadia offered to the RFL on an attractive buy & lease back deal?
What you suggested for Saints, CAs and Oldham were all very different propositions.
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Exactly what I have been saying for years, a national home for RL, if it brought in a fraction of the amount Twickers does or a similar amount to Murrayfield would pour millions into the game every year.
Whether Odsal fits that bill I don't know but it will be interesting to see how things pan out.'"
Bill it would be years if not decades before Odsall was in a position to generate any money back into the sport, this would most definatly be long term planning, in fact initially it would be doing the opposite, using money to develop that would be used elswhere in the sport, unless Nigel has found 30 million down the back of a Red Hall sofa?
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| Paves the way for a london stadium.
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| I think a lot of people are reading this as "The RFL are buying Bradford Bulls a brand new stadium"
They're not.
I know that it's traditional to grab the wrong end of the stick and start beating around the bush with it but seriously folks, read the press release, check the facts, then comment.
The way the press release reads the Bulls were about to have their stadium sold from under them The RFL have stepped in, bought the ground and are RENTING it back to Bradford. It also states the RFL have no plans for redevelopment of the stadium.
However, if Odsal was to be redeveloped as the home of RL then I'd hope they'd go with the new stadium plan from the OSV which involved filling the bowl in to a level with the concourse where the bars and food stalls are and then building a stadium up from that base rather than attempt to redevelop the stadium in it's current state.
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| Seems to make complete sense to me. The RFL own a large venue that, while not perfect, is up to the standards required, and a club has it's home secured. Why would they have splashed out on Belle Vue which is not up to it, hence the plans to move. Everyone wants to see a conspiracy where there isn't one. I didn't even know they owned other stadia until today.
I really can't get involved with all this 'Lewis and Wood out' nonsense. The reason Wakefield are in the hole they are is bad management for decades and some supporters who were willing to be complicit in it by toadying up to that management. Not the RFL's fault.
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| Maybe they will sell Red Hall, move the offices to Odsal and save money that way?
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| Quote: Starbug "Bill it would be years if not decades before Odsall was in a position to generate any money back into the sport, this would most definatly be long term planning, in fact initially it would be doing the opposite, using money to develop that would be used elswhere in the sport, unless Nigel has found 30 million down the back of a Red Hall sofa?
If Bradford were paying the council rent before, and now they're paying the RFL, does this not mean the RFL are already making money out of it?
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