If they took Wigan, Leeds, Warrington and Hull out of SL and replaced them with four clones of crusaders would that improve the competition?

SL fans have no idea how RL runs below SL. In SL, thanks to the Sky money attendances have become less important. Regular Sky coverage means sponsorship is worth more money. Championship 1 has neither of these, the main source of income is the crowd. Taking four of the best teams out of that division will reduce away support, even if only by 100 per game, that is significant over the course of a season. Couple that with the lack of a local derby and the lack of meaningful fixtures as the expansion clubs put their squad together and you have a significant drop in income for Championship 1 clubs.

That is a much better anology

You are correct. The odd 100 extra away fans is vital to the finances of clubs such as ours.

There haven't been any post from Cas fans in this thread.
Try reading it properly before jumping to a condesending post eh?

It isn't just the away fans though , it is how your home fans percieve the competition their club are playing in ? , local derbies and traditional rivals generally bring out the ' occaisional ' fan , new or percieved lesser quality opposition doesn't

It really is that simple , this equation applies to all sports at all levels , you only had to witness the empty seats at old trafford last night to understand it , the Challenge Cup matches between SL and Championship clubs shows it quite clearly in RL

1 new club every 2 years is probably sensible , 4 all at once is just a gimmick or knee jerk reaction IMO

Coming from you that is rich.

It'll be interesting to see where they train , Northampton , or Yorkshire ?

Wellsy13 has hit the nail on the head, it's not like the leagues have been totally ringfenced along with devalued - if anything it opens up the league to ambitious teams who previously wouldn't have had a chance at promotion. The proper way to expand is from the bottom up, the proposals make sense.

If you have a better plan that is viable then please share it. I see lots of criticism (some of which is simply incorrect) yet nothing constructive at all. It all amounts to a whinge at new things, basically.

Posted loads of other options in the past , some similar to what is going to happen at these new clubs , its just 4 all at once will cause a few issues with existing clubs , even the RFL admitted as such when they first announced it

Ok then, apologies.

Bore off Wakey children, on this thread, nobody cares for your bickering.

Correct on all counts. Why this is beyond the comprehension of the RFL i do not know.

Apology accepted.

Your 'opinion' (however rich, as Vasty has already pointed out) has been ignored.

If this improves a competition, what happens to the championship and ambitious clubs in there? There are some left still you know?

Unbelievably clueless

So you're saying it's impossible for the clubs who do not play well enough to earn promotion this time around will never be able to in subsequent seasons?

Wasting my time.

Take the blinkers off