Let me see

Lee Mossop- dont make me laugh
Gareth Hock - mmmm no chance washed up sorry, what exactley did hock do last season to suggest he will ever be an international again, I ll tel ya NOWT
Sam Burgess - if hed been fit we all would want him in
Danny Brough - Im scottish oh no there can I now play for england no thankyou good kicker yes thats it !! ffs
Liam Farrel - Very sorry no way never not international class
Kallum Watkins - if he ever stays injury free maybe
Zac Hardaker - Time will tell no ready yet

Sorry my friend i dont think you would know what a good player looked like supporting wakey as you do !! now jog on !!

JJB has had a good overall series they all played poor this eveninf stop looking for scapegoats to fit your agenda

can't see what our problem is mate. just say it as it is. if you watched the games you would definitely know that jjb hasn't had that good a run. some of the things he did tonight were laughable. sinfield should be nowhere near the halves. his kicking game was pathetic. say what you want about brough , he is the best english 7 we have got with the best kicking game in the business. its no good talking about him playing for scotland when we have rangi in the team. thats an embarrassment to english rl. as for peacock ,should have definitely had the sense to have bowed out 2 years ago when he was at his best. the best players as you saw tonight know when the time is right to pack in international duties before they are made to look stupid like he was tonight. if mcnamara has any balls he would clear out the aforementioned names and as for you , most of what i have read from you is club based garbage.
i bid you goodnight.

can't see what our problem is mate. just say it as it is. if you watched the games you would definitely know that jjb hasn't had that good a run. some of the things he did tonight were laughable. sinfield should be nowhere near the halves. his kicking game was pathetic. say what you want about brough , he is the best english 7 we have got with the best kicking game in the business. its no good talking about him playing for scotland when we have rangi in the team. thats an embarrassment to english rl. as for peacock ,should have definitely had the sense to have bowed out 2 years ago when he was at his best. the best players as you saw tonight know when the time is right to pack in international duties before they are made to look stupid like he was tonight. if mcnamara has any balls he would clear out the aforementioned names and as for you , most of what i have read from you is club based garbage.
i bid you goodnight.

I'm pretty sure if Brough hadn't lost form in the second half of last season he would have been selected.

Would he have made a difference tonight?...maybe to the scoreline but not the result.

Until THE CLUBS give the national coach a bigger pool of players to choose from we will never catch up.

What does that mean "jog on"?

Pathetic fella, now you er... Jog on, doh!
Come back when you've got a clue and can assess the situation without getting all upset because one of your favourites got criticised.

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I dont have to justfy my comments to you however for you information I have been to all the games involving England this series.

Where have I shown club bias ?, and I reiterate you wouldnty know a good player if it smacked you in the face seenas you support WAKEY ??.
Danny Brough should never play for england he made his bed he should lie in it ? I dint disagree re chase that man is now in no mans land as based on his performances he will not be in the next england squad.
Sinfield is being played out of position who's fault is that ?? not his !!
JJB has overall had a decent series not his best tonite I agreebut no worse than anyone else!!
Jamie peacock in my opinion should npw retire from Internationals immediately unfortunately whether you like it or not ther are not the players to replace bothe Peacock and Morley so look forward to that !!
As for the club bias I think it is easy to say that but as your club (shambles of a club always looking for a benefactor) dosent supply players to the international side and hasnt in my considerable memory you should look for others ways of amusing yourself as in the near furture you will once again be skint
I bid you goodnight

Yes goodnight, it was clearly passed your bedtime about 4 hours ago.

Have the likes of Lee Mossop, Liam Farrell, Gareth Hock etc really proved with their performances this season that they're better than Morley & Peacock? If Morley & Peacock are still 2 of the top 4 English props then surely they should play shouldn't they?

As for JJB - I thought he did pretty well this series, added some speed and dynamism to our backrow in which Heighington and Ellis were largely disappointing.

As for Brough - it amazes me. Year on year we plead with the selectors to pick players in form. Danny Brough was not in form so he wasn't picked. Where's the drama?

As for the argument that players who have lost shouldn't play again - embarrassing. When Australia lost in 2005 they didn't dump all the players, when they lost in 2008 & 2010 they didnt dump Slater, Lockyer, Thurston, Smith & Inglis whilst saying "well they lost, they've had their chance we're going to pick Ben Cross instead. After all he's done ok for Newcastle and played SOO."
It's just stupid. You pick the best 17 regardless of age and whilst taking into account current form. The best English 17 still contains Peacock & Morley and does not currently contain Gareth Hock.

The suggestion is that going forward we should now be looking beyond certain players and have an eye on 2013.

yes break the hegemony of the 'leeds circle' its a bit like radio one trying to hang on to dave lee travis ,mike read etc

Have an eye on - fine. But until they prove in SL that they are better than the current incumbents then they shouldn't be shoved straight in simply because they've "not lost to Australia before".


The Leeds circle of who?
Reed & Hall?
Sinfield & Chase?
Peacock & Graham?

As someone who has watched at least Watkins and Hardacre most weeks, if you think they are anywhere near ready for international RL you really need to give your head a shake, one of them maybe, but both of them out there instead of Yeaman and Briscoe? against Inglis? really?

Burgess would be in there anyway if he wasnt injured, im struggling to see what Hock has done in the last 2 years other than prove he is a bigger grub than Thurston and Danny Brough has got to 28 as the epitome of a flat-track bully, Brough has been found wanting at every challenge he has been given, yes he looks good when the forwards give him a great platform, but there is a reason Brough couldnt get a gig at a side challenging and there is a reason his game went to pot towards the end of the year. When the going gets tough, Brough disappears.