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| Quote: roughyedspud "villasanti never played and phil bailey played 1 game hth
the rest of the aussie team was packed full of origin players, the aussie squad was never as bad as it's often portrayed'"
It was an average squad especially in the backs.
Lockyer
Hegarty
Wing
Bailey
Minichiello
Gower
Kimmorley
The fact that Villasanti was in the squad says it all.
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RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
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| Lockyer - don't need to say anything about this chap
Hegarty - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Wing - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Bailey - was on the bench for all 3 origin games and played 1st test and scored...could do much more
Minichiello - played all 3 origin games for NSW and was golden boot winner 18months later
Gower - finished with 18 australia caps...hardly crap that is it
Kimmorley - crap players don't get 22caps for australia
so........who was actually missing? andrew john injured iirc...gordan tallis has just retired....looking at the pack the aussies put out in 2003...Webcke,buderus,civoniciva,mason,waterhouse,ricketson,fitzgibbon,robbie kearns,michael crocker etc....thats better than what the aussies are gonna put out next weekend lol
like i said the 2003 australia team was nowhere near as bad as its portrayed
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| Quote: Wilbred T Pricklepop "I'd rather be an optimistic fool than a negative one.'"
Negative suits me just fine.
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| Quote: roughyedspud "Lockyer - don't need to say anything about this chap
Hegarty - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Wing - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Bailey - was on the bench for all 3 origin games and played 1st test and scored...could do much more
Minichiello - played all 3 origin games for NSW and was golden boot winner 18months later
Gower - finished with 18 australia caps...hardly crap that is it
Kimmorley - crap players don't get 22caps for australia
so........who was actually missing? andrew john injured iirc...gordan tallis has just retired....looking at the pack the aussies put out in 2003...Webcke,buderus,civoniciva,mason,waterhouse,ricketson,fitzgibbon,robbie kearns,michael crocker etc....thats better than what the aussies are gonna put out next weekend lol
like i said the 2003 australia team was nowhere near as bad as its portrayed
Wing has never played for Queensland.
Maybe the Australian League was not so good in 2003?
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| sorry my bad..its NSW not QLD....the fact still remains he played in all 3 origin games in 2003
or maybe yourwrong
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| In answer to the question in the thread title. YES and I hope they do. We need a strong England in RL.
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| Quote: Jonesy "It was an average squad especially in the backs.'"
Yes, it was average squad – but not because of the reasons that the Australians insist , that it was a second or third string team (that premise has been discredited time and again on these boards), but because, and please sit down for this as it is a surprise, some of the Australian players are just average – even those that play in that super human spectacle that is called State of Origin
The 2011 English team would beat the 2003 Kangaroos 3-0 in a series
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| Quote: Dunbar "Yes, it was average squad – but not because of the reasons that the Australians insist , that it was a second or third string team (that premise has been discredited time and again on these boards), but because, and please sit down for this as it is a surprise, some of the Australian players are just average – even those that play in that super human spectacle that is called State of Origin
The 2011 English team would beat the 2003 Kangaroos 3-0 in a series'"
Do you have a time machine or a Crystal Ball?
Australia are better than England for many reasons.
I could list them but I am sure you already know or have seen this before.
Back in the day when GB were still considered a "force" they hand picked Club teams to play on tours in Australia in between Test Matches, Parramatta beat them.
Australia played virtually all the main English Club teams on their tours.
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29107.jpg gutterfax wrote:
Union has EVERYTHING to do with what league does.
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No one cares about international rugby league:29107.jpg |
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| the 2003 series was a bloody good one, Australia were very lucky to win it as all games came down to the last 3 mins.
Bring this back, awsome stuff.
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Quote: roughyedspud "sorry my bad..its NSW not QLD....the fact still remains he played in all 3 origin games in 2003
or maybe yourwrong'"
Wrong about what spud?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Wing
You have been proved wrong on your FACTS more than most on this Forum in recent times.
I did not dispute how many SOO games he had played, getting the team right is a good start in my opinion.
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Quote: roughyedspud "sorry my bad..its NSW not QLD....the fact still remains he played in all 3 origin games in 2003
or maybe yourwrong'"
Wrong about what spud?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Wing
You have been proved wrong on your FACTS more than most on this Forum in recent times.
I did not dispute how many SOO games he had played, getting the team right is a good start in my opinion.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| i meant maybe your wrong about the australian league being not so good in 2003
typing QLD instead of NSW is hardly a hanging offence
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29107.jpg gutterfax wrote:
Union has EVERYTHING to do with what league does.
Codarmysaint wrote:
No one cares about international rugby league:29107.jpg |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "i meant maybe your wrong about the australian league being not so good in 2003
typing QLD instead of NSW is arleady a hanging offence
it is in QLD
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| Quote: Jonesy ".
Back in the day when GB were still considered a "force" they hand picked Club teams to play on tours in Australia in between Test Matches, Parramatta beat them.
Australia played virtually all the main English Club teams on their tours.'"
oldham have beaten australia 3 or 4 times ......so whats your point
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| Quote: roughyedspud "i meant maybe your wrong about the australian league being not so good in 2003
typing QLD instead of NSW is hardly a hanging offence
If the Australian National team made up of players from the SOO are not so good what is your point?
I said the game in Oz may not have been going well, I never said the Australian team was picked from Park players.
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| Quote: roughyedspud "oldham have beaten australia 3 or 4 times ......so whats your point'"
Was that in Queen Victoria's time?
I can only relate to the times where I have been around, lets say the last 30 years.
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