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Quote: Steve Fox ""a kick whereby the ball is dropped from the hands (or hand) and is kicked immediately it rebounds from the ground"

That's the definition of a drop kick in the laws of the game. Not simultaneous contact between ball, ground and boot but immediately after it has rebounded from the floor.

McGuire did that. The ball wasn't bouncing round the floor for seconds before he kicked it. He met the ball as it bounced from the pitch.

What happened was that Alibert asked the wrong question in saying "did it hit the ground?", wrong because drop kicks ARE allowed to hit the ground.

He should have asked if the ball was dropped deliberately rather than accidentally and did McGuire kick it soon enough to qualify as a drop kick.

As I recall Ganson didn't watch a single replay in real time in making his decision so how can he possibly have judged if the ball was "kicked immediately it rebounds from the ground" as required by the laws?

The fact is that, in the heat of the moment, the 3 officials seems to have had a collective brain fart and forgotten about the possibility of a drop kick and instead got confused with a situation where a ball is dropped accidentally by a player and must then be kicked before it hits the ground if not to be ruled a knock on.'"


Spot on...

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I'm under the impression that a drip kick in the field of play has to be a goal attempt. He clearly didn't go for goal, so he just messed his timing up due to the pressure from Tomkins, so knock on.

Anyone that thinks a player purposely attempts to do a drop-grubber is clutching at straws. From a technical coaching point of view, to attempt to hit the ball on the half volley is a lot harder to control than straight out the boot, so it is a ridiculous practice.

And Tomkins had every right to challenge. He was committed to the tackle. McGuire had the ball in hands when he made the attempt. What was he meant to do? Leave him? He could have dummied.

It was a clear knock on. And if any similar incidents have been given in the past, then they were wrong. Doesn't make this any more right!

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First just a reminder: we have touch judges in RL, not linesmen.

Wigan can thank Sam Tomkins for stopping Maguire's try. He clearly went to try a grubber kick, but Tomkin's grasp at his arm disturbed the play, the ball hit the ground first and threfore is was a knock-on, no try. Anyone who suggests Maguire was attemting a drop kick is clutching at straws. Yes, it may have 'evened out' the forward pass for Richards's try, but two wrongs don't make a right.
First just a reminder: we have touch judges in RL, not linesmen.

Wigan can thank Sam Tomkins for stopping Maguire's try. He clearly went to try a grubber kick, but Tomkin's grasp at his arm disturbed the play, the ball hit the ground first and threfore is was a knock-on, no try. Anyone who suggests Maguire was attemting a drop kick is clutching at straws. Yes, it may have 'evened out' the forward pass for Richards's try, but two wrongs don't make a right.


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Quote: Mr.Side "

Didnt know you guys in Yorkshire made up new rules.. you better ask Clarkey first if the rugby gods will allow them though.'"


I find myself amused at the thought of Steve Fox coming from Yorkshire.

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Quote: Saddened! "Looked fine to me. Or it will when I watch it later.'"


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Leeds fan here.

No try, knock on.

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Quote: rover49 "Keep the one who saw the McGuire incident and sack the other one then. It looked like the pillock we have tomorrow as referee.'"



Hicks was the one who missed the forward pass I believe

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Quote: Wellsy13 "
Anyone that thinks a player purposely attempts to do a drop-grubber is clutching at straws. From a technical coaching point of view, to attempt to hit the ball on the half volley is a lot harder to control than straight out the boot, so it is a ridiculous practice.
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You are kidding ..???

A half-volley kick is called skill...check out Andrew Johns, Terry Lamb, Andy Gregory, Roger Millward etc etc..many great players have had it in their armoury...

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Quote: Larry Billey "You are kidding ..???

A half-volley kick is called skill...check out Andrew Johns, Terry Lamb, Andy Gregory, Roger Millward etc etc..many great players have had it in their armoury...'"


Yes it is , and if you get it wrong , as Danny did , it's a knock on

End of argument

IT WAS A KNOCK ON

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Quote: Starbug "Yes it is , and if you get it wrong , as Danny did , it's a knock on

End of argument

IT WAS A KNOCK ON'"


Agreed.

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Clearly Mcguire was going for the drop goal to make it 26-25. The Rugby Gods got in the way and prevented him from doing it. It should have been a try. Anyone with half a rugby league brain can see it should have been a try.

Seriously though, Leeds got what they deserved after all the cheap shots and McGuire jumping into Richards... Mcguire also ran off pretending he had scored when he knew he hadn't. I would call that cheating.

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Quote: Odemwingie "Clearly Mcguire was going for the drop goal to make it 26-25. The Rugby Gods got in the way and prevented him from doing it. It should have been a try. Anyone with half a rugby league brain can see it should have been a try.

Seriously though, Leeds got what they deserved after all the cheap shots and McGuire jumping into Richards... Mcguire also ran off pretending he had scored when he knew he hadn't. I would call that cheating.'"


I think it would be best if you forgot your log in name and password for a couple of months to save yourself further embarassment.

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Don't bite, he/she is clearly trolling.

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Quote: Mark_W "Leeds fan here.

No try, knock on.'"



like your style mate, short and sweet and spot on.

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Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "I think it would be best if you forgot your log in name and password for a couple of months to save yourself further embarassment.'"


Well the first comment was a joke and the second comment was not exactly outrageous. Or is calling someone a cheat outrageous to you? Clearly not, Leeds fans boo Tomkins for apparently being a cheat. I don't see Tomkins jumping into people in the air though, or tripping people up when a try is on the way, or chicken winging, or celebrating a try that was never scored to try and con the ref. I also don't see Tomkins having such shocking defence as McGuire either.... he got boomed for the charnley try.

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