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Quote: Sheldon "Do you believe Warrington are paying King 20% of their cap?
Are you aware that when Berrigan and King came over the exchange rate was very different?'"
I am really aware of that as my company is very involved with the exchange rate daily.
I am not sure what Warrington's books said, I do know what Matt King said himself in the Oz press when he signed.
Along these lines, I could find the quote if pushed " Warrington are paying me a crazy amount of money for 4 years the deal was so good I could not refuse"
I found it.
[iKing said money was not the "be-all and end-all" in his decision but conceded
www.foxsports.com.au/breaking-ne ... 1113925954
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Quote: Sheldon "Do you believe Warrington are paying King 20% of their cap?
Are you aware that when Berrigan and King came over the exchange rate was very different?'"
I am really aware of that as my company is very involved with the exchange rate daily.
I am not sure what Warrington's books said, I do know what Matt King said himself in the Oz press when he signed.
Along these lines, I could find the quote if pushed " Warrington are paying me a crazy amount of money for 4 years the deal was so good I could not refuse"
I found it.
[iKing said money was not the "be-all and end-all" in his decision but conceded
www.foxsports.com.au/breaking-ne ... 1113925954
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| Quote: Jonesy "But that is what happens when you import players with far more money or longer contracts and more money in some cases.
Will they all go their hardest?
Some are seeing the World having a Holiday or just in Cruise mode.'"
So when English players fail in the NRL it is because they are not good enough and when Australian players fail in the SL it is because they are not trying? Is that the gist or your point?
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| Quote: Jonesy "But that is what happens when you import players with far more money or longer contracts and more money in some cases.
Will they all go their hardest?
Some are seeing the World having a Holiday or just in Cruise mode.
Take away from that the players that are bigged up that are rubbish in reality.
Others like Monaghan at Bradford was hot and cold but needed quality around him to shine (that is not uncommon) when he is expected to do it all on his own he can not and probably did not realise what he was joining and he was to be the one man Messiah.
Going from a top team in the NRL surrounded by SOO Players to an also ran in England would be a shock, but one the money would help ease.
King at Warrington in a classic example, paid massively more than in the NRL on a longer contract, he was on the end of a machine at the Storm that delivered the ball, goes to Warrington? Its a credit to him he has stuck it out and come good to a point.
English teams should be targeting Scott Prince, Lockyer, Cronk and Marshall in their prime, the bottom line is those players will not make the move regardless of the money until they are past it because the Main feature is the NRL.
No players leave the NRL to "Test" themselves in Super League. They do it for more Money longer contracts and it shows, Mercenaries are a fickle bunch unless they are proud Journeymen like Menzies, Fitzgibbon and others.'"
Hardly call Menzies or Fitzgibbon journeymen.
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| Quote: Dunbar "So when English players fail in the NRL it is because they are not good enough and when Australian players fail in the SL it is because they are not trying? Is that the gist or your point?'"
Not at all
Who has failed in the NRL lately that was any good?
Plenty of quality English players have been stars in Australia over the years.
Less so lately.
The Numbers and quantity of players that are imported to England on bigger payments are going to get players that are only going for the Money or the extra 2 years offered on a contract when they hit their thirties.
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| Quote: ExiledWool "Hardly call Menzies or Fitzgibbon journeymen.'"
If the English Clubs knew the players to import in their later years you would save some time and money.
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| Quote: Jonesy "I am really aware of that as my company is very involved with the exchange rate daily.
I am not sure what Warrington's books said, I do know what Matt King said himself in the Oz press when he signed.
Along these lines, I could find the quote if pushed " Warrington are paying me a crazy amount of money for 4 years the deal was so good I could not refuse"
I found it.
[iKing said money was not the "be-all and end-all" in his decision but conceded
Because King wouldn't have been a top paid player!
Thurstons on a reported $700,000 a season, that's just short of 30% of the sl cap.
If sl could afford the top players in their prime they'd be here, and not because their to lazy for Nrl pre season like Eastwood.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Because King wouldn't have been a top paid player!
Thurstons on a reported $700,000 a season, that's just short of 30% of the sl cap.
If sl could afford the top players in their prime they'd be here, and not because their to lazy for Nrl pre season like Eastwood.'"
You think Thurston is on the books at $700k?
He is on at around $300k with third party top ups.
How is Warringtons team under the Cap? they are being creative and I do not know what the rules are there but $600k is obviously not on the books.
Maybe he is on $100k with a differed payment when he retires?
Thurston is a key Cog in his State and National team, King was filling a gap with no guarantees.
Thurston can sell Headgear, footballs, guest appearances etc, King a bit more than less so.
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| No not at all, Thurston has got third party payments.
If memory serves me he can have around $200,000 off the books.
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| Quote: Sheldon "No not at all, Thurston has got third party payments.
If memory serves me he can have around $200,000 off the books.'"
The rules in SL are much tighter IIRC, any payments from third parties who are associated in any way with the clubs counts towards the cap. So if Thurston came to the UK, he would almost immediately be down $200k on the deal.
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| Quote: Sheldon "No not at all, Thurston has got third party payments.
If memory serves me he can have around $200,000 off the books.'"
That would depend on how his contract is made up.
There have been several players in the NRL that have been on contracts around 1 million a year depending on the deals, Brad Fittler was a 1 million a year player a decade ago in the Wars.
SL is no different only with less money I guess.
Its all smoke and mirrors and when a Rugby Union player was announced as the $1million dollar player 20 years ago
a South African Half back said you are a couple of years too late (when the game was still Amateur)
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "The rules in SL are much tighter IIRC, any payments from third parties who are associated in any way with the clubs counts towards the cap. So if Thurston came to the UK, he would almost immediately be down $200k on the deal.'"
Image rights?
Overseas payments to offshore accounts?
It was widely reported years ago in Oz that the contract money in England was Tax free,
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| Thats all been clamped down hugely in UK law.
The governments going after us before taking on soccer which they reckon could be worth billions to them
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| Quote: altofts wildcat "Can't see him doing much in the NRL when you consider the fact that he was struggling to get in a Leeds team who lets face it have been poor this season.'"
Ben cross played state of origin and i would have luke over him
The NRL is littered and hs been by props who make the grade who I would put Luke ahead of.
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| Quote: Ferdy "Ben cross played state of origin and i would have luke over him
The NRL is littered and hs been by props who make the grade who I would put Luke ahead of.'"
I am sure you are right.
Ben who? NSW have used every Prop eligible in the last 5 years haven't they?
He will probably join George at Norths or Sicknote Sam on the sideline egging the first team on.
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| Quote: Jonesy "I am sure you are right.
Ben who? NSW have used every Prop eligible in the last 5 years haven't they?
He will probably join George at Norths or Sicknote Sam on the sideline egging the first team on.'"
You are Barry Mackenzie and I claim whatever £5 is worth these days in $
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