It is great that new stadia are being built & that may encourage a renewed interest at some clubs & us fans get a bit more comfort. But will it actualy improve the game or its finances? As by chance I am watching Manly playing the Cowboys from Brookvale oval it is pouring with rain A large number of the crowd are in the open & stood on a grass bank down the far touch line, The league we all seem to be trying to emulate dont seem to think that grounds are the most important thing in selling the game & that ground makes Bell view look palatial. Also how many fans on here actualy would prefer to stand but cant as they are in all seater stadiums. I am lucky that HKR are developing slowly & we have the East stand to watch from & as far as I know the new North stand will be seated but the planed east stand extension & eventualy the south stand (after the tempory stand is replaced) will be standing, I am happy with that.

That is just simply not true - from either clubs perspectives.

One is awaiting the outcome of a PI to be heard in December, with results due next spring, subject to that the stadium WILL proceed as the first phase of a significant business development.

One is awaiting outline planning for a retail development which would unlock the funding to allow the development to proceed on a site already granted PP for the stadium.

There are different challenges and varying timescales involved, but neither are inter-related and both can stand alone on their own merits - with, importantly, the support of their customers, i.e. us!

Out of these "new" stadiums how many are or will be soley owned independantly by the rugby league club concerned and can financially considered as a club asset.

Cas.

Correct, apart from the multiple charges on it, cas do own WR.

Before you go off on one you should read his post again. He said NEW grounds.

PS: You should do some research before making such comments as well (and not always believe ill-informed peers on the Wakey forum).

He's said nothing either wrong nor not in the public doamin. Cas own their ground, but before they can 'cash in' there are charges against the ground which need to be addressed. It doesn't change anything about their proposals, so why get touchy about it?

Ive never understood why the Bulls won't share Valley Parade with City. Ready made all seater premiership standard stadium with unspoilt views within their city limits. City in their current state would be very open to shared ownership and a joint buy-out of the current owner Im sure....or they could keep chucking money down the drain on the upkeep of Odsal and pie in the sky projects that will never happen.

When you are GIVEN a stadium FOC including a load a dosh (even from keighley folk who get SFA for their team) you don't throw it away!!!

All three of the football teams would not have had the stadiums if the RL clubs had not agreed to share and vice versa. They are not soccer ( we started being fat yankee's now ? ) stadiums either, they are community stadiums.

"Multiple charges"? He makes it sound like everyone has something against the ground, which is simply not the case.

And can't charges be carried across to the new asset because we'll own the new stadium? i.e. Stadium to stadium

Cas don't have a NEW stadium.

FFS, I know education is crap in Wakefield but please, please read before writing!

He states how many of these stadiums ARE or WILL BE - note 'will be' - owned by the team.