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| Quote: Durham Giant "they are a worse team than Wakefield, seem to have less in the way of young players coming through and AFAIK there are no plans to redevelop the Hole in the ground.
At least Wakefield have some plans although they may take time to come to fruition.'"
I remember going to Hudds-Salford a few weeks ago, and remember two blokes with claret and gold tea cosys on their heads standing up and acting the goat. One of them had DURHAM on the back of his shirt.
This post doesn't surprise me at all.
And FWIW, Bradford will definitely NOT lose their license this time around, partly on the back of obtaining a B license this time meaning (I think) we can't be excluded this time.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "If a club wants to guarantee its place in SL, be an A grade club, if you cant, you need to accept that your club is failing to be where they need to be and maybe dropped.'"
So...what are the criteria for an A-Grade club then? The criteria that if met guarantee you a Licence?
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Adeybull "So...what are the criteria for an A-Grade club then? '" There are 50 of them, in 5 areas, they havent been released to us but they have to the clubs who had input on them. Quote: Adeybull "The criteria that if met guarantee you a Licence?'" it doesnt quite guarantee you a licence, it guarantees you a licence if you are one of 13 or less clubs who scored an A grade. Though if 14 out of 14 applications do score an A grade, someone somewhere has f@cked up badly.
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| In fairness, I was only using your statement "If a club wants to guarantee its place in SL, be an A grade club".
But if the criteria are not made public, then to pinch an old quote we have a process "...for carrying on an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is"?
And that provides very fertile ground for the conspiracy theorists to sow their theories in, does it not?
For example, I heard a rumour that criterion #1 is "any existing club not located in Bradford is deemed to meet the requirements of a A-Grade in respect of this criterion". And Criteria 2-50 are all dead easy ones that any club could attain, such as "A-Grade clubs shall have a grass playing surface" and "A-Grade clubs shall own their own balls" and "A-Grade clubs shall have at least one toilet in their ground..."
See what I mean? The RFL have clearly conspired to eject Bradford - its a scandal!
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| If all clubs were anywhere near then maybe.
But when there are some so obviously far away from the 'model club' the RFL have no need to fudge the criteria.
But when you have to phrase your conspiracy as 'out of all the clubs who didnt meet the grade, the RFL concluded club A to be the worst bid' it sounds much less conspiratorial.
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| Except...we still do not know what constitutes the "model club"! So if we do not know the standard against which all applications are judged, how can we have confidence that the process is as near to "fair" as you could expect in the circumstances?
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Quote: Adeybull "Except...we still do not know what constitutes the "model club"! So if we do not know the standard against which all applications are judged, how can we have confidence that the process is as near to "fair" as you could expect in the circumstances?'"
It is at the very least, going to be the same as the 'best' club in SL. If your Commercial, marketing, media and community, facilities, finance, governance and business management along with playing strength and player performance strategy are comparable to the top club in SL (in those areas) then you will be comfortable.
If you dont, then you havent met the grade, and your licence is under threat. What you will need to do is put together a bid on what you can offer to SL, and the RFL will judge these bids and pick the best 13.
examples of criteria are 5,000 season ticket holders, audited turnover of at least 4m, home crowd averages of more than 10,000 in any of the previous three years – likewise, a minimum top eight finish – and facilities such as a 12,000 capacity all under-cover stadia.
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Quote: Adeybull "Except...we still do not know what constitutes the "model club"! So if we do not know the standard against which all applications are judged, how can we have confidence that the process is as near to "fair" as you could expect in the circumstances?'"
It is at the very least, going to be the same as the 'best' club in SL. If your Commercial, marketing, media and community, facilities, finance, governance and business management along with playing strength and player performance strategy are comparable to the top club in SL (in those areas) then you will be comfortable.
If you dont, then you havent met the grade, and your licence is under threat. What you will need to do is put together a bid on what you can offer to SL, and the RFL will judge these bids and pick the best 13.
examples of criteria are 5,000 season ticket holders, audited turnover of at least 4m, home crowd averages of more than 10,000 in any of the previous three years – likewise, a minimum top eight finish – and facilities such as a 12,000 capacity all under-cover stadia.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/lic ... _1_2583516
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| Quote: AaronBull "I remember going to Hudds-Salford a few weeks ago, and remember two blokes with claret and gold tea cosys on their heads standing up and acting the goat. One of them had DURHAM on the back of his shirt.
This post doesn't surprise me at all.
And FWIW, Bradford will definitely NOT lose their license this time around, partly on the back of obtaining a B license this time meaning (I think) we can't be excluded this time.'"
You should have said hello then and joined in with the singing
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| Must admit, it becomes somewhat harder to assign due credibility to someone's postings when you learn that they go around with a tea cosy on their head...
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It is at the very least, going to be the same as the 'best' club in SL. If your Commercial, marketing, media and community, facilities, finance, governance and business management along with playing strength and player performance strategy are comparable to the top club in SL (in those areas) then you will be comfortable.
If you dont, then you havent met the grade, and your licence is under threat. What you will need to do is put together a bid on what you can offer to SL, and the RFL will judge these bids and pick the best 13.
examples of criteria are 5,000 season ticket holders, audited turnover of at least 4m, home crowd averages of more than 10,000 in any of the previous three years – likewise, a minimum top eight finish – and facilities such as a 12,000 capacity all under-cover stadia.
OK that is useful as it gives pointers - thanks. Without the full spec. of the "model club" though, and perhaps more importantly the weighting given to failure to achieve each criterion, the conspiracy theorists will still be able to have a field day, I submit?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Must admit, it becomes somewhat harder to assign due credibility to someone's postings when you learn that they go around with a tea cosy on their head...
He wears it well though
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| Quote: Adeybull "Must admit, it becomes somewhat harder to assign due credibility to someone's postings when you learn that they go around with a tea cosy on their head...
Not as credible as my tin foil hat
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| Is there pictorial evidence of said headgear...?
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50086_1357229109.jpg [b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag.
[b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg |
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| Quote: Adeybull "Except...we still do not know what constitutes the "model club"! So if we do not know the standard against which all applications are judged, how can we have confidence that the process is as near to "fair" as you could expect in the circumstances?'"
I met Nigel Wood once and he told me his model club was Warrington. Granted, he said it after being encouraged to do so by Andy Gatliffe, Warrington's Chief Exec but his exact words were:- 'Warrington are our model club. If we had 12 Warringtons, we'd never have any problems'. He knew I was a Warrington supporter so he was clearly blowing smoke up my Peter Fox but I think he just meant that Warrington are:-
- Solvent
- Have decent facilities
- Have a decent youth structure
- Are competititive on the field
- Attract crowds of circa 10k
Most SL clubs should be capable of most of that with decent stadia I expect. As for a 1,600 page submission - I think I read that Salford's was something similar in terms of length. Got to be either a lot of waffle, a lot of pictures or a lot of draft documents to get that large.
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