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| 3,563 at St Helens today. They need to do something IMO.
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| How about scrapping the free ticket to passholders scheme and the seeding the 5th round draw so that all SL clubs play away at a lower league club? Income for the smaller club and higher chnce of upsets.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| we're lucky if we get a upset once every 5 years...
this 4th round is a round our top players don't need to play...they could miss this round and enter at the next round with 2 championship teams.....
what we could do is,like i said, have the earlier rounds as the challenge shield, which would leave just 2 championship teams after round 4...those 2 teams would then join the 14 SL clubs in a open draw for the 5th round.......
its the future!
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| The lower leagues have the northern rail cup
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "82-0.....
absolutely pointless.....only the top 2 or 3 teams in the championship are able to keep the score some what respectable....so part of my revamp where only 2 championship clubs make the 5th round makes more sense than ever....'"
If your team lost 82 - 0 to a side like Hull they really shouldn't be playing the game in any league.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| Quote: PHIPPS "If your team lost 82 - 0 to a side like Hull they really shouldn't be playing the game in any league.'"
look everyone.......a village idiot!
how can i best explain this??.....its like wentworthville or cabramatta from the bundaberg cup playing canberra or gold coast from the NRL........it ain't gonna be pretty
sh*t damn i forgot...a bundaberg cup side would be england....damn sorry my mistake
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| Quote: roughyedspud "look everyone.......a village idiot! '"
Don't worry spud, I think we've all spotted him!
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "look everyone.......a village idiot!
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Poor jonny. Thats a bit harsh really.
My point was... it was [sizeHULL FC[/size
It wasn't Warrington or St Helens.
There is no team in the world that should lose by 82 points to Hull.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Poor jonny. Thats a bit harsh really.
My point was... it was [sizeHULL FC[/size
It wasn't Warrington or St Helens.
There is no team in the world that should lose by 82 points to Hull.'"
You mean those two sides Hull just beat and drew against?
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "You mean those two sides Hull just beat and drew against?'"
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "You mean those two sides Hull just beat and drew against?'"
Brilliant.
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42169_1366443727.jpg Chorlton RL wrote- "Jonny, for me you hold the mantle of most sensible poster on the VT"
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Yed wrote: "He's like a Kevin Penny on steroids except he's good too"
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"What? What have I said now?" - Starbug 2013
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| Quote: Saddened! "3,563 at St Helens today. They need to do something IMO.'"
Kick Saints out?
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| All super league clubs away in the first round, with no split pot.
Making it an under 23s comp for Super League clubs in the 4th round.
Regional pools for round 4 e.g Yorks, Lancs and erm Other to increase speccy interest??
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| - SL clubs to play away in the 4th Round (where practicable)
- Revamp the Northern Rail Cup
- Reintroduce the Challenge Cup Plate Competition for eliminated lower league sides from Challenge Cup. Play the final at Wembley as the warm up to the Challenge Cup Final. It would also go someway to ensuring that the Challenge Cup Final was a sell out every year regardless of whoever is in the final, in Plate Finalists got say 5K tickets apiece ....
- Have a seeding system to allow NL clubs that progress past the 4th Round of the cup to either enter the Plate at a later stage or like Tolouse in 2005 (who got to the Challenge Cup Semi Final proper), have the Plate final between the remaining team from the Plate competition Vs The best / furthest progressed non-SL team from the Challenge Cup.
- Double Header the Plate Semi-Finals alongside the Challenge Cup Semis
- Double Header the Plate draw alongside the Challenge Cup Final draw
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