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Quote: af "you're right, it's a poor post - here's a second draft.

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Draws are usually good, for 79 minutes and 59 seconds. But's its the last second and its aftermath that are the problem and its not just me that thinks so.

I suspect that had since 1895 the convention been that an away side had to outscore their opponents in order to gain the competition points, few would have a problem with it and few would be calling for draws to be introduced as a concept.

I don't doubt RL can survive keeping the draw. I think it could have survived not bring in the 40

A draws a great result. Hypothetically say two teams finish 2nd and third on equal points (as last year), and there being 5 points difference between them (cant remember what it was but it was something close). Now say if that second placed team had scored those points in 5 minutes overtime, why on earth should they have been allowed 2165 minutes in their season to score them when the other side only had 2160?? Silly. As for your idea.. dont get me started, a team in a brutal sport being handed the points for.. well.. nothing, makes a mockery of the 80 minutes played previously.

As for 40/20s I dont like them either, rewards a poor team imo

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Quote: af "Get rid of draws -'"



Why?

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Quote: tb "Why?'"


Can you for once use your moderation powers correctly and either lock this thread as stupid , or ban him for a few days , please

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Ohh questioning the moderation process, that gets you a warning.. well it does on your board. Anything other than what god preaches gets you threatened with a ban. Its amazing how I havent been banned with DP's ridiculous spam warnings but then he realised.. I havent done anything wrong.

To come from the Leigh board and question tbs moderation ski11zzz is out and out astonishing

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Quite possibly one of the worst ideas I've seen on here, and I've seen a few bad ones.

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Quote: af "The crazy thing is appealing to tradition in a game that brought in limited tackles within living memory. We are the innovators, let's keep innovating.'"


Innovations like ensuring right from the off that the game is an uneven contest?
No, I'll stick with draws thanks.

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I'm still struggling with drawing comparisons between himself and Pankhurst, King and Jesus.

A lot of other people have had ideas which at the time were considered 'stupid'. These ideas are still considered 'stupid'. This is because they are 'stupid' ideas.

This is one to add to that pile, and not to the 'saviour of mankind' one.

As for the comment about lots of the most sucessful sports using an equivelent.. Lets look at soccer. Undoubtedly the most sucessful sport in the world. This doesn't use it. Neither do most other sports. The only ones I can think of without having to do any research are American sports, but a draw isn't a part of their national psyche. It is an established part of UK sport.

Still a stupid idea
I love a well fought draw..

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Quote: af "Yes, it would be an unearned advantage, but no more of one than being at home in the first place (I'm sure that's worth more than half a point). We're happy to wear that in the league because each side benefits equally I've the course of the year. We're even prepared to allow it in the cup where there is no chance for redress that season.

If the home side began at 0.5-nil up then we'd have more home wins which would be good for the competition and every game would have a positive result on the day, which would also be good for the competition. The away side would have to work just that little bit harder to get something out of the game. And unlike golden point, no need for added time.

The problem would be the fans. But if we'd never had conversions, and I came on here saying "How about after each try, you get a chance to kick a penalty in line with where you scored it?" there'd be plenty telling me it was the stupidest thing they'd ever heard.

Last time I brought this issue up, I think I started by suggesting Golden Point. Well I saw that in the NRL when I was in Aus and was underwhelmed. The home half point is the way to go.'"



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Definitely time for golden point extra time in the event of a draw.

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Start half a point up? Just coach the team to play for a nil-nil and you win every home game. Guaranteed play-offs without scoring a try icon_wink.gif

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Quote: af "The problem would be the fans. But if we'd never had conversions, and I came on here saying "How about after each try, you get a chance to kick a penalty in line with where you scored it?" there'd be plenty telling me it was the stupidest thing they'd ever heard.'"


I'd come on here and say you don't know the history of a "TRY at goal"

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If two teams slog it out and end up with a draw,fair result.Where is the problem in that?
Think some folk come up with an idea just for the sake of it.

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Quote: PHIPPS "Definitely time for golden point extra time in the event of a draw.'"

Why,what is wrong with two teams getting a point each? Its a LEAGUE game.
If you come second in the table by 1 point,then it has a bearing on the league
standings.

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So, in essence, because the aussies and americans don't like draws we should get rid of them?

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Quote: af "" and after four tackles, you just... hand it over? You've not dropped it, you've not kicked it away, you have to give it to the opposition? Are you on crack?"'"


Sounds good to me as long as it's the same for both teams.

If the team at home get's 4 and a half tackles, then I reckon that would be a silly idea.

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