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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: sanjunien "it's everything to do with this thread

players at Crusaders when they played at the start of the clubs creation until not long ago,that is to say when Cru played in the Championship and players who helped them into SL ie CHAMPIONSHIP EXPANSION (see the connection ?) are still owed money and seem to have no chance of ever getting it.I bet you would be really happy if your employers didn't pay your wages and I bet you would be even happier that no legal process is in place to get some kind of compensation ? - how would you expect to feed your family ?
The players you have been following and cheering on over the past few seasons,if you're a Cru fan and any players ftrom other struggling clubs should be ensured some kind of payment/compensation when the club goes t**s up,don't you think ?
Other workers have protection,why not RL players ?'"
I agree that players should get some sort of protection but that's not a subject I am too interested in, nor could I care less about Crusaders and their financial hardships, and nor does this have anything whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. As far as I can tell the only reason you are persisting with this is because you misinterpreted my original comment, jumped the gun and reacted based on the mistaken belief that I have some sort of affinity to Crusaders or any other club. If you really want to have a discussion about Crusaders then start a new thread, I probably won't contribute because those sorts of threads are almost always extremely tedious.

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Quote: headhunter "I agree that players should get some sort of protection but that's not a subject I am too interested in, nor could I care less about Crusaders and their financial hardships, and nor does this have anything whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. As far as I can tell the only reason you are persisting with this is because you misinterpreted my original comment, jumped the gun and reacted based on the mistaken belief that I have some sort of affinity to Crusaders or any other club. If you really want to have a discussion about Crusaders then start a new thread, I probably won't contribute because those sorts of threads are almost always extremely tedious.'"


sorry to be 'tedious' - it's just one of my many attributes...

so,to answer my original question - if the frrech clubs area no-no in the Championship,what are the Scorpions doing that's any better ? or is that also too 'tedious' for you to respond to ?

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Rugby league players get exactly the same kind of "protection" as any other employee in this country. If the company I work for goes bust I don't get paid either.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: sanjunien "sorry to be 'tedious' - it's just one of my many attributes...

so,to answer my original question - if the frrech clubs area no-no in the Championship,what are the Scorpions doing that's any better ? or is that also too 'tedious' for you to respond to ?'"
French clubs already have a semi-pro league to play in. Therefore having one team playing in another semi-pro league, especially one that requires much higher travelling costs, is pointless. French teams should either be in the semi-pro Elite league, or the full-time Super League. Having them in the Championship achieves nothing as it's no step up in terms of the infrastructure of the club. Scorpions are a semi-pro team and are thus playing in the relevant semi-pro competition. They don't have anything to do with Toulouse or any other French teams.

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Quote: Him "Rugby league players get exactly the same kind of "protection" as any other employee in this country. If the company I work for goes bust I don't get paid either.'"


but that company is allowed to re-form under a different administrative set up and bear no responsabilities to ex staff ?

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Quote: headhunter "French clubs already have a semi-pro league to play in. Therefore having one team playing in another semi-pro league, especially one that requires much higher travelling costs, is pointless. French teams should either be in the semi-pro Elite league, or the full-time Super League. Having them in the Championship achieves nothing as it's no step up in terms of the infrastructure of the club. Scorpions are a semi-pro team and are thus playing in the relevant semi-pro competition. They don't have anything to do with Toulouse or any other French teams.'"



unless they win promotion ?

or,TO13 get relegated when their stupid exemption clause runs out ?

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: sanjunien "unless they win promotion ?

or,TO13 get relegated when their stupid exemption clause runs out ?'"
In terms of their status in the competition, they have nothing to do with TO. Their situations are in no way similar and it wasn't a relevant comparison to make.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Chris Dalton "Where this aggression comes from, I do not know. You can't live your life bathed in the shallow waters of bitterness.

I think you need to get a sense of perspective. A sense of humour is key to a happy and fulfilled life. And laughing at yourself is a major part of that. So I promise, from now on, to spend as much time as I can laughing at yourself.

It's the least I can do.'"


Aggression ?

Not much of that in my last post , as for the rest of yours , well it looks and sounds very much ' stalkerish ' to me , enjoy icon_lol.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: headhunter "French clubs already have a semi-pro league to play in. Therefore having one team playing in another semi-pro league, especially one that requires much higher travelling costs, is pointless. French teams should either be in the semi-pro Elite league, or the full-time Super League. Having them in the Championship achieves nothing as it's no step up in terms of the infrastructure of the club. Scorpions are a semi-pro team and are thus playing in the relevant semi-pro competition. They don't have anything to do with Toulouse or any other French teams.'"


It isn't often we agree , but on the subject of Toulouse in the Championship , I concur , I would be much happier if the money spent flying players and staff over the channel was spent on building up one or two new British based Championship clubs

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so then,what have the Scorpions or LSK contributed so far ? apart from saving loadsamoney on travelling expenses that is ?

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Quote: sanjunien "so then,what have the Scorpions or LSK contributed so far ? apart from saving loadsamoney on travelling expenses that is ?'"


They have contributed by putting awareness of RL in areas there wasn't before , and have enabled players in those areas to play RL to a much higher standard than they could have done previously , they have done this without considerable extra costs from central funds

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Quote: Starbug "They have contributed by putting awareness of RL in areas there wasn't before , and have enabled players in those areas to play RL to a much higher standard than they could have done previously , they have done this without considerable extra costs from central funds'"



great,sounds just like the french story then ! icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: sanjunien "great,sounds just like the french story then !
Except Toulouse have been playing since 1937 , and as Headhunter posted , they have a perfectly good local competition of similar standard to the Championship that they have and can play in to prepare for any future SL application , so there are hardly any similarities at all

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



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Quote: headhunter "No, absolutely nothing like having French teams in the Championship. If you are unable to understand that there is nothing to be gained from moving a semi-pro team from one semi-pro league to another, then really that is your problem.'"


not a problem for me mate - i'm quite happy watching the LER - FCL and others have been great this season with some decent crowds that would put the Championship to shame - the problem is with the RFL who seem to want to do the expanding bit.Ask them why they want the french teams involved ?
FCL (playing in Narbonne) have made a bid for some kind of Championship representation along with Toulouse so it's in the hands of the RFL it would seem ?

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