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| Quote: Yed™ "It wasn't the only criteria though, we all knew that, yes in an ideal world we'd have P&R but we don't and i genuinely feel for them but they need to go back look at themselves ask the RFL what made their bid weaker than Widnes' bid and rectify it for the next time round.'"
So Halifax basically need to find someone willing to pump millions of pounds of their own money into the club if they want to get into Super League.
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "No, but I think some of the lyrics are appropriate for the way I feel right now. Rob Brydons butchering of the song was almost as bad as murder though.
It's only a game mate, Huddersfield and Bradford are quite close if you want to watch live Super League.
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "It is nothing to do with hating Widnes. Widnes are a proper RL club with a history, I have no problems with them being in SL. However, nobody has responded to my comment. What does a bloke in a suit, stood behind a podium got to do with sport? Widnes should have had their moment of glory after 80 minutes of rugby. Not after a 5 minute Sky Sports advertisement break.'"
This isn't about a five minute sound bite on Sky sports. This is about building the club to a super league standard with a sustainable future over the past three years. It is the reward for all the hard work put into the club to transform it from top to bottom.
Why is this so hard to understand?
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "What does a bloke in a suit, stood behind a podium got to do with sport? '"
The entire development of professional sport worldwide over the last 30 years or so has completely passed you by, hasn't it?
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| Quote: nathanwood7 "Why are people complaining now that promotion should be decided based upon on-field performance. The decision to make the decision based on wider factors (including on-field performance) was taken several years ago and any club which has spent the last 3 years investing solely in it's first team should only blame themselves.
Widnes have invested heavily in their youth systems and in their community programmes, in addition to having great facilities, good attendances and sound finances. They spent the last 3 years specifically addressing the areas of the bid that they failed on last time (i.e. financial stability and youth structure). As a result we now have a vibrant and strong Widnes club which is better for the whole game of rugby league. It was for this very reason that franchising was introduced and therefore it is clearly serving its purpose.
Clubs aspiring to super league have 2 choices - they can accept the franchising criteria and do their best to meet it as fully as possible, or they can continue to prioritise only certain sections of the criteria and then moan that these sections should be given more priority if rugby league is to be considered a "proper sport". I know which I'd prefer my club to do.
Also regarding the Northern Rail Cup - to those who say this is a mickey mouse competition that nobody cares about, you are clearly missing something. This competition forms a key part of the on-field criteria given that winners fulfill this criteria in full and therefore only stupid or ignorant people would consider it to be "mickey mouse" for any aspiring club.'"
halifax did meet the criteria AND they won the championship (which was one of the criteria) - which club (or set of fans) are you addressing?
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| Quote: HatedAndAdored "This isn't about a five minute sound bite on Sky sports. This is about building the club to a super league standard with a sustainable future over the past three years. It is the reward for all the hard work put into the club to transform it from top to bottom.
Why is this so hard to understand?'"
We met the same criteria as you, Richard Lewis said so, and we did it without spending three million pounds of somebody else's money. And we exceeded your performance on the field every year (past three years since last round of licensing). Where is our reward?
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| Funny how certain clubs owe the game money or have serious money problems and are lucky if they get more than 3500 through the gate yet people never mention them and think they belong to the Elite clubs in our game yet Championship clubs who are in a far better condition people like to mockk and say should do more or find a sugar daddy. Shows how rubbish our sport is when there are more discussions about what happens off the field than on it!
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| Quote: LeythIg "So Halifax basically need to find someone willing to pump millions of pounds of their own money into the club if they want to get into Super League.'"
Having a rich backer at least means we don't have the mess that Wakey and Crusaders are in.
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| Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "TB
Could you possibly provide links to where he has said he is "happy"? Or perhaps he's just dealing with the facts as they exist within franchising, instead of pretending that, like them or lump them, those facts do not exist?
Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "Nice ignorance there my friend. The song was made famous by Labi Siffre and inspired by a TV documentary Siffre viewed in 1985 in which a white soldier was seen shooting at black children. Apalled, he penned the song as an anti-Apartheid anthem, advising Africans to stand tall in the face of adversity.'"
Which makes your use of it here even more risable than ever, comparing yourself, in effect, to South Africans under apartheid.
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "We met the same criteria as you, Richard Lewis said so, and we did it without spending three million pounds of somebody else's money. And we exceeded your performance on the field every year (past three years since last round of licensing). Where is our reward?'"
A Gavin and Stacey box set?
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| Quote: Yed™ "Having a rich backer at least means we don't have the mess that Wakey and Crusaders are in.'"
Throw them out then , right now
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| Quote: Sheldon "A Gavin and Stacey box set?'"
God no, hours of James Cordon is exactly what I consider hell!
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| Quote: Mintball "
Which makes your use of it here even more risable than ever, comparing yourself, in effect, to South Africans under apartheid.'"
I did think about that, but some of the lyrics are appropriate, barriers, rules and all that. I dont wish to compare anything, only a sport after all, or is it?
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| Quote: HatedAndAdored "This isn't about a five minute sound bite on Sky sports. This is about building the club to a super league standard with a sustainable future over the past three years. It is the reward for all the hard work put into the club to transform it from top to bottom.
Why is this so hard to understand?'"
You have been promoted because you have a millionaire backer, and he had the intelligence to ask the RFL where he should be spending his money. He knew the system, played it, and congratulations to Widnes for that.
Halifax have done what they can off the field, within the financial constraints that any club in the Championship will face without a leg up from a sugar daddy. They have done this whilst reaching 2 successive grand finals and winning one of them. I think Fax fans have every right to be disappointed.
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| Quote: Mintball "Could you possibly provide links to where he has said he is "happy"? Or perhaps he's just dealing with the facts as they exist within franchising, instead of pretending that, like them or lump them, those facts do not exist?
Which makes your use of it here even more risable than ever, comparing yourself, in effect, to South Africans under apartheid.'"
At least it wasn't the Taliban, pesky kites!
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