How much media attention does the game get down there exactly? I hardly ever see any of this mentioned on SSN or any other channel for that matter. The fact is that RL is, and always has been a Northern sport and if you don't believe that then find me stastical evidence to say otherwise. The fact is that RL in London cannot compete with the football sides that are around there, let alone the fact that it is a hotbed for RU.

So why would the club declare such a low figure if the actual crowd was signifcantly higher?

You really do talk some poop smokey.

Probably annoyed, but there's no reason to, crowds are not the be-all and end-all and in fact as long as finances are in order they don't really matter for anything at all. I doubt Quins have harmed youth development in Widnes, considering Widnes's U18s won their league. Quins aren't the only club stopping Widnes from being in Super League. Instead of slating them we should be looking at ways they can improve, because if they got their act together they could be an extremely valuable asset.

Tax maybe-There were lots of bring a friend tickets today plus 2 for 1 etc-Im telling you there were more than 1700 there.

and ?

So you are saying that the actual name of the club would decide if you wanted to watch them ? Amazing , if they changed their name to ' Richmond ' their gates would increase ?

What you are suggesting is ' if they owned their own stadium in a large town , small city with no other sports being played in it or near it they might be able to get better crowds , no sh.t Sherlock , so where should they move to ?

..and it was small as it always is in London.......

But lose London and you lose a large % of your Sky money which keeps the game afloat, hence why the RFL are so keen to keep it going


And we are 2 from 2 and 3rd in the league!!

As the nothern clubs have shown "Aussie aussie aussie more more more"

The problem I see is that I know folk who live in the middle of London and are Union fans. They won't go to watch the Union side play because The Stoop is awkward to get to. If the Union lot won't go, what chance does RL have?

Then surely the club should declare the real attendance and celebrate the fact that their promotion worked.

No, where have I said that? It is a factor though, it's obviously going to hamper their marketing, any casual or uneducated people who saw any mention of 'Harlequins' would associate it with Union, it's not a marketable brand.

I don't know where they should move to. There is a clear need to move though if there is any possibility of it. They got better crowd as London Broncos despite being completely Australian-oriented, I think if the current club was still at Griffin Park rather than the Stoop then crowds would be a heck of a lot better than they currently are.

And this is who's fault exactly ?

Mine , Leigh fans , Fax fans , Barrow maybe ?

Why didn't they market themselves ?

and pay the tax on money that hasnt materialised- got it

Make no mistake the crowd was significantly bigger than 1700-take my word for it.

I dont doubt RL has always been a northern sport. For a long time it was run by the most backwards parochial fools you could wish for. And they almost killed the game.

That isnt however an argument to say it always will be.