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Quote: Wellsy13 "There are an 'alf some moanin' minnies on here!

I don't understand why people wouldn't want split rights with ESPN if the end result was MORE games on TV and more money. You don't HAVE to buy both ESPN and Sky Sports, do you? Nobody is forcing you to. You can have one or the other, and if the result is 2 games on each, then what have you lost? Nothing at all.

If it goes to ESPN completely, then cancel Sky Sports and get ESPN, it's cheaper! If you'd prefer to keep Sky Sports for the other sports, then that's a shame but ultimately your choice. But ESPN do have a lot of other sports these days in their portfolio to make it worth getting. Worst case scenario, you have to go down to the pub or a mate's house to watch the rugby. Not end of the world.

As for the Cup. I sincerely hope it gets off the BBC. The coverage is awful. I can't stand the BBC, a company that forces you by law to pay for them in order to watch other channels. They have no incentive to make our sport appear better, and just bung highlights on at ridiculous times (4am FFS!) and regionalise us completely. Yes, it's good to have terrestrial coverage, but not in just two regions!

As for Toulouse, they aren't in a position to do anything for TV rights yet. They're not big enough, and certainly not ready to force their way into SL. If a French TV company came up and said "we'll pay x-amount if you include Toulouse" then yeah, include them. And speaking of French RL, it would be great if we could somehow manage to get the French Championship on TV, either on Eurosport or Sky. It runs from September to May, so would bridge the off-season and stop me from being so devoid of RL on TV over winter!

No mention of internationals in there though.

Next year, there could very well possibly be more RL on more channels and at more times than ever!
Super League on both Sky Sports and ESPN perhaps.
Championships and NRC on Sky Sports.
Challenge Cup on BBC/Channel 4.
NRL and Origin on Premier Sports and Sky Sports.
Internationals on Sky Sports and maybe BBC/Channel 4.
Student RL on Premier Sports.

Just get the French Championship on Eurosport and we'll be doing very very well! All is looking good for the future.'"


good post wellsey, ill always knew you had it in you

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Quote: Dettoriman "Personally, I think this is just a well timed article, To get the Beeb and Sky to increase thier investment.

Tell them they may lose them, They up the offer a little. We sign the deal

Sky Sports and BBC should keep the coverage IMO'"


club RL isnt the second most watched football code in england on tv, killing union

why wouldnt networks want that

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Quote: Mr Dog "And when they finally find the number.....

Lewis

yeah its not as if the RFL last time found tv money to fund 2 new SL teams and raise the grant to the existing team by 250,000 per club

excellent analysis

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any increase in tv revenue should go to developing the championships and below, begin the step towards two pro divisions

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Sky do not like to share so I can't see them allowing the RFL to give them two games a weekend and a subscriber channel two games per weekend and ESPN would hardly want to cover the weekly rounds and lose out on the playoffs, but Sky wouldn't release that coverage without a massive cheque from ESPN.

Do any of you really think this kind of a deal is in the RFL's hands? They know Sky have the biggest purse, they know the audience figures will only get bigger if they stay on Sky, they also know that Sky are not likely to up their coverage of the sport or pump money in to the production of it's shows because the viewing figures do not warrant it, but this still changes nothing, the RFL cannot move from Sky it would be suicide.

Sky's production of it's shows is poor compared to say The Footy Show. I know the money going into the production of football coverage is much much higher (look at Andy Grays wage!!!) but just the way the presenters conduct themselves on camera, the technology they use, not just the touch screen stuff but compared to the RL's graphics we are a million miles away and this I think needs addressing in this new bid. We should also push for Video Refs at all games, if we insist on having them in the game at all then it needs to be a level playing field. You do not need a big screen at all games like in Aus but they should have enough cameras at the ground to make vital decisions, if no angle can be found then a ref's call should be made.

Fingers crossed the bid is increased but Lewis will not fool anyone with his idol threats, all he will do is get the backs up of those at the BBC who already couldn't give two stuffs about the sport.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Another thread filled by moaning RL 'fans'. Only in RL could we turn a news story about possible increases in money and coverage, into a negative whinge. It's absolutely predictable and pathetic. People moaning on this thread should be ashamed.

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SL needs to get on FTA Tv with at least one game a week if it is ever to grow bigger. 2 games on Sky plus one on FTA with same FTA channel showing a round up league programme on a Weds night is the way to go. Sky are not paying enough to have exclusive rights to on eof the top 3 sports in the country imo. The CC is ok but SL is now the pinnacle of the domestic game and needs to be seen by the unclean masses.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: JB Down Under "SL needs to get on FTA Tv with at least one game a week if it is ever to grow bigger. 2 games on Sky plus one on FTA with same FTA channel showing a round up league programme on a Weds night is the way to go. Sky are not paying enough to have exclusive rights to on eof the top 3 sports in the country imo. The CC is ok but SL is now the pinnacle of the domestic game and needs to be seen by the unclean masses.'"
SL will never be on FTA and it's unrealistic to expect that. No domestic sport is currently shown on FTA as far as I know.

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Quote: headhunter "Another thread filled by moaning RL 'fans'. Only in RL could we turn a news story about possible increases in money and coverage, into a negative whinge. It's absolutely predictable and pathetic. People moaning on this thread should be ashamed.'"


To be honest anyone that believes everything that is in the press and comes out of the mouth of Richard Lewis should be ashamed of themselves!!!

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ESPN is free if you take the Virgin service as opposed to Sky direct.

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Quote: nick hkr "Fingers crossed the bid is increased but Lewis will not fool anyone with his idol threats, all he will do is get the backs up of those at the BBC who already couldn't give two stuffs about the sport.'"

And people here need to remember that the BBC is looking to save a LOT of money - I'd imagine that they wouldn't be overwhelmed with grief at having to lose us. I also seem to remember that last time round they were the only terrestrial bidder with ITV not even bothering and C4 offering £0, a polite way of saying 'get lost' (C5 couldn't bid as they didn't have a big enough terrestrial footprint at the time).

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Not sure why everyone keeps banging on about Channel 4. They wont pay for sport. They even get paid to show the gee gee's.

For Super League we are looking at Sky and ESPN. This might even go as a joint bid in the end.

For the challenge Cup I think it will be Five and ITV as well as BBC who are looking into this. I guess it would fit into ITV nice and easy. ITV 4 will show the live round games then the final on ITV1.

Hopefully they may even bid to show the SuperLeague highlights.

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ITV won't go for the Challenge Cup in a million years. It would not make commercial sense. I think it is Channel 4 who are interested in the Challenge Cup.

Super League will go to Sky or ESPN. No more than 3 live games a week. Championship will stay at 1 game max I would have thought.

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Quote: loyalsince1904 "ITV won't go for the Challenge Cup in a million years. It would not make commercial sense. I think it is Channel 4 who are interested in the Challenge Cup.'"

Why would it make sense for C4 and not for ITV?

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Quote: Dux "Why would it make sense for C4 and not for ITV?'"


ITV, to justify a big investment, would have to put SL on prime time. Like it or not, fat warblers dancing on ice in front of Simon Cowell is a bigger draw for them. They could put us on another time slot, but they can't justify a big spend for a time when audiences are lower.

C4 doesn't have the audience to "lose" - very few of their programmes are a big draw, especially in prime time.

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