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Quote: Hull Kingston Bronco "They're not opening the upper tier, that's 33,000 of the 75k capacity. Neither will tickets be sold for the North Stand, the one that backs on to the old Arms Park, as it has limited facilities etc - that's probably another 15k at least. So a total sell out in this configuration would be 27,000. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising, this is the first time they've got the layout right - having the lower two parts of the bowl 80% full will create a miles better atmosphere, and look better on telly.

All in all, looking at the mix of reserved and unreserved blocks, I reckon selling out unreserved is probably about 12k.'"



Do you honestly think that the area behind the posts pictured here is around half the capacity of the full upper tier?



I don't think it houses anywhere near the 15,000 figure you claim.

Interesting to see that there are only weekend tickets now available on the rfl ticketing page. Get your tickets soon folks or prepare to be disappointed. I personally cannot wait.

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This picture demonstrates better the fact that the whole upper tier holds a lot more seats than the gap.

It certainly holds around 6 or 7 times as many seats at least.

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If the Scorpions were to improve their business (i.e. better on field results, bigger crowds, etc.), they wouldn't be able to get into SL at their current ground anyway. Their only real options would be Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli (which is 18 miles away from The Gnoll and holds 14.5k) or Liberty Stadium, Swansea (about 10 miles away and 20.5k).

Not that any of that is anywhere near to happening, but you never know. In 10 years time there could be some very good players coming through in South Wales. Not quite sure which option they'd prefer, with Swansea being closer but Llanelli probably being a bit more affordable.

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Wellsy13 "If the Scorpions were to improve their business (i.e. better on field results, bigger crowds, etc.), they wouldn't be able to get into SL at their current ground anyway. Their only real options would be Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli (which is 18 miles away from The Gnoll and holds 14.5k) or Liberty Stadium, Swansea (about 10 miles away and 20.5k).

Not that any of that is anywhere near to happening, but you never know. In 10 years time there could be some very good players coming through in South Wales. Not quite sure which option they'd prefer, with Swansea being closer but Llanelli probably being a bit more affordable.'"


I'll tell you exactly which option they would prefer.

The 15 man option.

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Quote: PHIPPS "I'll tell you exactly which option they would prefer.

The 15 man option.'"

If the Scorpions preferred the 15 man option, they'd be playing that sport and not rugby league.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "If the Scorpions preferred the 15 man option, they'd be playing that sport and not rugby league.'"


So you think if there were some good young Welsh players coming on in South Wales and a scout from the Scarlets, Blues or Ospreys offered them a contract they would knock it back?

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Quote: PHIPPS "So you think if there were some good young Welsh players coming on in South Wales and a scout from the Scarlets, Blues or Ospreys offered them a contract they would knock it back?'"

Why are you talking about individual players when I was talking about the club as a whole? It's a diversion of the argument because your attempted little dig at the Scorpions was so poor that you're trying a new angle.

But to answer, if they were talented and were offered a contract by the aforementioned clubs, I would also think they'd be offered a contract by the Crusaders as well, and I reckon (as rugby league players) they'd give the code they've learned their trade in a go first before chasing the cash.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "if they were talented and were offered a contract by the aforementioned clubs, I would also think they'd be offered a contract by the Crusaders as well, and I reckon (as rugby league players) they'd give the code they've learned their trade in a go first before chasing the cash.'"


So if a Welsh rugby player was offered the chance to play for Crusaders (which then might lead on to playing for Wales national RL side who lets be honest have about as much chance of winning anything as a one legged Donkey has of winning the Grand national) or union club sides like the Blues, Scarlets or Ospreys which might lead on to playing for the Wales Union side in the 6 Nations or the RUWC which one do you reckon he will choose?

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Quote: PHIPPS "So if a Welsh rugby player was offered the chance to play for Crusaders (which then might lead on to playing for Wales national RL side who lets be honest have about as much chance of winning anything as a one legged Donkey has of winning the Grand national) or union club sides like the Blues, Scarlets or Ospreys which might lead on to playing for the Wales Union side in the 6 Nations or the RUWC which one do you reckon he will choose?'"



I suppose it depends upon which sport he prefers to play!

It's like lots of jobs, some are every well paid but not everyone wants to do them for various reasons, some obvious some not so.

At the end it's up to the individual to decide.

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Quote: PHIPPS "(which then might lead on to playing for Wales national RL side who lets be honest have about as much chance of winning anything as a one legged Donkey has of winning the Grand national)'"


league13.info/2010/10/23/wales-p ... opean-cup/

Thanks for pointing out another reason why there should be a super league team in south Wales
Quote: PHIPPS "(which then might lead on to playing for Wales national RL side who lets be honest have about as much chance of winning anything as a one legged Donkey has of winning the Grand national)'"


league13.info/2010/10/23/wales-p ... opean-cup/

Thanks for pointing out another reason why there should be a super league team in south Wales


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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Toulouse for super L "league13.info/2010/10/23/wales-pip-france-for-to-win-alitalia-european-cup/

Thanks for pointing out another reason why there should be a super league team in south Wales'"


Sorry, My mistake.

I missed out the word 'worthwhile' between 'anything and 'as'

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Leaguefan "I suppose it depends upon which sport he prefers to play!

It's like lots of jobs, some are every well paid but not everyone wants to do them for various reasons, some obvious some not so.

At the end it's up to the individual to decide.'"



As the Celtic Crusaders disaster proved there is only one code of Rugby that counts in South Wales and it's not league.

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Quote: PHIPPS "So if a Welsh rugby player was offered the chance to play for Crusaders (which then might lead on to playing for Wales national RL side who lets be honest have about as much chance of winning anything as a one legged Donkey has of winning the Grand national) or union club sides like the Blues, Scarlets or Ospreys which might lead on to playing for the Wales Union side in the 6 Nations or the RUWC which one do you reckon he will choose?'"

You could say exactly the same about any English rugby league player.

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Quote: PHIPPS "As the Celtic Crusaders disaster proved there is only one code of Rugby that counts in South Wales and it's not league.'"


There is more than enough basic ' rugby ' talent in South Wales to provide enough players for a decent Championship club , if those players decide they would rather play union , then fine , there will be another twenty in the next village who might fancy something different , and so on and so on

Eventually there might be enough to provide enough quality to put together a SL squad , if the club build slowly and properly they will get to whatever level they can

As for the Celtic Crusaders , that was just another example of how not to do it

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Wellsy13 "You could say exactly the same about any English rugby league player.'"


I disagree actually. Thankfully most English born Rugby League players are originally from areas where the sport is more popular than union.

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Leigh
 Sun 6th Oct
     National Rugby League 2024-R31
09:30
Melbourne
v
Penrith
       League One 2024-R26
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
       Championship 2024-R29
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Widnes
     Womens Super League 2024-R16
16:30
York V
v
St.HelensW
 Sun 27th Oct
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Matches on TV
Fri 4th Oct
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Warrington
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan-Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Warrington 28 761 341 420 42
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Leigh 28 580 404 176 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 27 655 469 186 30
Widnes 26 551 475 76 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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