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| Quote: Toulouse for super L "We have a similar problem to the NRL. They have too many Sydney clubs, we have too many Yorkshire/Lancashire clubs. The weakest of those need to drop down to championship level.
I agree that expansion clubs should build from the bottom and be brought in at championship/championship1 level as has happend with Toulouse and South Wales.
2012 Toulouse in Super League, South Wales in Championship, Edinburgh in Championship1
2015 South Wales in Super League, Edinburgh in Championship, Dublin in Championship 1
2018 Edinburgh in super league, Dublin in Championship
2021 Dublin in super league'"
Edinburgh Eagles don't even play in the Rugby League Conference National Division and IIRC don't turn up for play-offs in North East England and yet by 2012 you think they'll be able to join Championship 1! Will you be financing it or have you made alternative arrangements?
As for Dublin, exactly which team do you think will step up?
By 2015 South Wales might hope to be a strongish (solid mid-table) Championship side but SL I don't think so.
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| Quote: Hedgehog King "Edinburgh Eagles don't even play in the Rugby League Conference National Division and IIRC don't turn up for play-offs in North East England and yet by 2012 you think they'll be able to join Championship 1! Will you be financing it or have you made alternative arrangements?
As for Dublin, exactly which team do you think will step up?
By 2015 South Wales might hope to be a strongish (solid mid-table) Championship side but SL I don't think so.'"
I wasnt saying these clubs should aim for super league, I was pointing out that there are rugby league clubs there as you stated there was not.
New clubs should be introduced at championship 1 level, as with South Wales Scorpions, initially financed by the RFL for the good of the game.
The best players from the current existing clubs can then move up to championship 1 level
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| Quote: Toulouse for super L "I think it might take 5 years in Edinburgh to have a sustainable fan base and have a substantial number of home grown players in the first team. As for Wakefield, Salford ect we could give them another 50 years and they would still be proping up the league getting 4k watching them and holding the game back'"
This is a fine assertion but, given that London hasn't managed "a sustainable fan base" or "a substantial number of home grown players" in 30 years, I think it's probably just fanciful bollox.
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| Quote: Kevs Head "This is a fine assertion but, given that London hasn't managed "a sustainable fan base" or "a substantial number of home grown players" in 30 years, I think it's probably just fanciful bollox.'"
To be fair london do have a fair amount of home grown players and a lot of schools/amatuer's playing the game.
As for why they havent been successful in getting a sustainable fan base. Bad management of the club, constant re-location and name change cant of helped.
But as I said earlier Wakefield/Salford ect havnt managed this also. It wouldnt take much for a new club to overtake them
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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
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| Why is it some idiots on here can only see RL expansion as SL clubs ?
Is the amatuer or Championship level not expansion ?
You could finance 4/5 Championship clubs for the cost of 1 SL club
Quite obviously to many SL is RL , and anything else is nothing , then they wonder why some of us seem a tad ' peeved ' with this
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Toulouse for super L "We have far too many teams in the small northern towns, we need to make super league more european to bring in the big money and compete with onion on the international stage. The expansion id go for would be something like this
When this ' big money ' comes in , who will get it ?
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| Quote: Starbug "Quite obviously to many SL is RL , and anything else is nothing , then they wonder why some of us seem a tad ' peeved ' with this'"
Be quiet peasant - toddle off below stairs - Nigel is ringing his bell from the drawing room - he wants his single malt and the fire needs stoking.
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| Quote: Dunbar "Or... we could take advantage of the open pathways offered to our sport since the fantastic events of 1995 and build from the bottom up. As another poster has said with a RL team based in every town, city, school, college and Universtity in the UK
If, as we all believe, we have the greatest game of all then we will see it grow now that the atificial restrictions have been removed
Professional teams should be built on demand for the sport not by parachuting teams into areas with no desire for the game'"
Flatcapper
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Gordon Tallis also hailed from Townsville.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Redchemic "Flatcapper
Gordon Tallis also hailed from Townsville.'"
And his Dad learned how to play RL at Leigh
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| You been reading wikipedia too then bugman
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Redchemic "You been reading wikipedia too then bugman
Dont need ' Wiki ' for that , Wally Tallis is a Leigh legend
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| Quote: littlerich "How about the collective organisation that is HM Prisons?
England & Wales
security costs would bankrupt most clubs plus imagine the nightmare of a trip to TO or Perpignan - mind you,we could always send them all down under with all the others ...
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| The Sl should only expand when the game can afford it and for strategic reasons. Extra money has to be pumped into a new expansion area to make it a success and if Quins and Crusaders (along with Gateshead, Paris etc ) have shown anything it is that the build it and they will come mentality doesn't work with RL as it does not have a big enough national/media profile.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "The Sl should only expand when the game can afford it and for strategic reasons. Extra money has to be pumped into a new expansion area to make it a success and if Quins and Crusaders (along with Gateshead, Paris etc ) have shown anything it is that the build it and they will come mentality doesn't work with RL as it does not have a big enough national/media profile.'"
Paris was a disaster waiting to happen and could never be sustainable - a novelty to begin with but with the french RL heartlands in the south Paris could never seriously work
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| which is an argument you could make for any expansion team outside the heartland areas. Hence why it has to be done when extra funding can be made available and that extra funding should come from the Tv deal which increases due to opening up new markets.
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