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Quote: Dico "Didnt something go through court a few years ago about this? Im sure they got something to say they could challenge for the assets back but chose not to follow it through. Could have dreamt it but im sure i came across some sort of article a while back'"

Didn't get as far as the courts, if I remember aright. I THINK it was Louis Bonnery who recommended the softly-softly approach. It wouldn't have mattered either way as they'd still have lost and the chances of getting anything out of the Petainiste dwarf currently occupying the Elysee (sp?) Palace (the only world leader who can run between Rob Burrow's legs) are nil. Incidentally I disagree with the concept of 'remnant Nazis' in relation to France, what we're dealing with is the old ultramontane anti-semetic far right who've been trying to run France since the departure of Napoleon - they'd consider the Nazis as squalid, common arrivistes!

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In France yes, everywhere else poor management.

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Quote: dally messenger "why not?

every other group that had assets stolen during WW2 had compenations.

'"


Presumably you've never heard of the Benes decrees, whereby all Germans and Hungarian citizens of Czechoslovakia were forceably deported and had their property confiscated, regardless of whether or not they had complied with the Nazi occupiers. This affected millions of people.

The millions of French citizens deported to Germany for work were not compensated either.

The confisaction of sporting assets kind of pales in comparison.

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "Didn't get as far as the courts, if I remember aright. I THINK it was Louis Bonnery who recommended the softly-softly approach. It wouldn't have mattered either way as they'd still have lost and the chances of getting anything out of the Petainiste dwarf currently occupying the Elysee (sp?) Palace (the only world leader who can run between Rob Burrow's legs) are nil. Incidentally I disagree with the concept of 'remnant Nazis' in relation to France, what we're dealing with is the old ultramontane anti-semetic far right who've been trying to run France since the departure of Napoleon - they'd consider the Nazis as squalid, common arrivistes!'"


He's definitely a Gaullist rather than a Petainiste, but to be honest there wasn't a great deal of difference. Petain was an ultramontane anti-semite from an impoverished peasant background, whereas de Gaulle was an ultramontane anti-semite from an impoverished aristocratic background...

Oddly, Petain betrayed his own beliefs by marrying a divorcee, but the de Gaulles were so extreme that if they visited Petain, his wife had to go next door or they would not stay.

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "
Is Rugby League Been Suppressed By Remnant Nazis or isn’t it?'"

No, that sentence doesn't make any sense.
Could you please re-phrase it.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: belgianxiii "No, that sentence doesn't make any sense.
Could you please re-phrase it.'"


Regardless of how he puts it across the answer is no. FFS......if anyone here thinks the IRB are remotely interested in anything other than cherrypicking potential stars they need their bumps looking at. D-L has churned up a whole load of historical facts from 70 years ago........and while he has achieved his quota for the month, I am stunned by some of the posters on here who believe their is a conspiracy department in Harcourt Street Dublin that have only one task...to destroy League. FFS....Why would the IRB waste time and money on such a department when League itself is doing that quite nicely d040.gif
Slow ticket sales for the opening games of the 4 nations.........I would suspect that if England were playing the All Blacks and Australia were up againts say Ireland in Union there wouldn't be ticket left by now. That's what's preventing League from growing......the attitude of both the governing bodies and the apathy of the fans.

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Quote: Urmston Wire "Presumably you've never heard of the Benes decrees, whereby all Germans and Hungarian citizens of Czechoslovakia were forceably deported and had their property confiscated, regardless of whether or not they had complied with the Nazi occupiers. This affected millions of people.

The millions of French citizens deported to Germany for work were not compensated either.

The confisaction of sporting assets kind of pales in comparison.'"


even if it pales into comparison, many jews have been compensated for what they suffered.

RL suffered enormously from what happened, should be no different.

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Quote: gutterfax "Regardless of how he puts it across the answer is no. FFS......if anyone here thinks the IRB are remotely interested in anything other than cherrypicking potential stars they need their bumps looking at. D-L has churned up a whole load of historical facts from 70 years ago........and while he has achieved his quota for the month, I am stunned by some of the posters on here who believe their is a conspiracy department in Harcourt Street Dublin that have only one task...to destroy League. FFS....Why would the IRB waste time and money on such a department when League itself is doing that quite nicely
tony collins was studying RFU acrhives and was surprised how obsessed they were with RL.

for over 100 years union did do things to harm RL.

professionals from only one sport were banned from union, professional rugby players, not pro. boxers, soccer players etc.

the irb has threatened minor euro nations that want to play rl in their summer months with a cessation of funding if they continue with our game.

the irb effectively forced out the nu clubs from their game for broken time payments but then turned a blind eye to these in leceister and wales because they didnt want to lose their clubs.

i could go on

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I think referring to Richard Lewis and Nigel Wood as "Remnant Nazis" is hardly fair.

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Quote: dally messenger "tony collins was studying RFU acrhives and was surprised how obsessed they were with RL.

for over 100 years union did do things to harm RL.

professionals from only one sport were banned from union, professional rugby players, not pro. boxers, soccer players etc.the irb has threatened minor euro nations that want to play rl in their summer months with a cessation of funding if they continue with our game.

the irb effectively forced out the nu clubs from their game for broken time payments but then turned a blind eye to these in leceister and wales because they didnt want to lose their clubs.

i could go on'"


Not just professional players - I know of several RU players who were told that they would not be picked for their teams if they ever turned out for the local amateur RL club.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: dally messenger "i could go on'"

Really icon_wink.gif
I have no doubt that the RFU had issues with the game of League for many years, as did WRFU and the other national unions. What I disagree with is the supposition that the current IRB have any interest in League....either as global business model or as a threat. I KNOW that players were subsedised in Union prior to professionalism......I was part of a team in the 80's that had ICI employees who had no idea where their offices were icon_cool.gif
Regardless of the tit-for tat posts on the NRL boards regarding made up TV figures etc.....the RUWC commands a global presence that international RL can only dream of. The IRB would be more concerned with the growth of other sports with a higher global profile, such as soccer, basketball, cricket, tennis etc.

As for the often mentioned media bias and the supposition that Union gets better coverage in the UK because of the public schoolboys employed in media...this is again wide of the mark. Newspapers are on their butts in the UK, TV is struggling and radio has been dead in the water for ages now........they will only cover what they think people will read and League doesn't even register in the press outside the M62.
If the IRB have done anything at all to counter the threat from league....I would say the growth of 7's would be it. That said, I doubt they even gave league a second thought when it came to organising that global circus.

Since professionalism in Union....one code has globally gone forward...the other continues to go the other way globally and this has nothing to do with Vichy France, Nazis or any covert/overt campaign from the IRB.

I repeat...why would the IRB sabotage something that is already scuttling itself?

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Quote: gutterfax "Regardless of how he puts it across the answer is no. FFS......if anyone here thinks the IRB are remotely interested in anything other than cherrypicking potential stars they need their bumps looking at. D-L has churned up a whole load of historical facts from 70 years ago........and while he has achieved his quota for the month, I am stunned by some of the posters on here who believe their is a conspiracy department in Harcourt Street Dublin that have only one task...to destroy League. FFS....Why would the IRB waste time and money on such a department when League itself is doing that quite nicely
Unfortunately as DM alluded to, the RFU's own records suggest they did actively try to attack rugby league in many ways during their history.

But GF assures us it wasn't so. So it must be true.

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Quote: gutterfax "Really
You are one massive apologist for union.

Pressure getting to you down there with the SBW saga showing you what your ilk are really like?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Old Darlin "But GF assures us it wasn't so. So it must be true.

Old timer...re-read my post, get your head out of the good old days and start living in the "now".
FXck the past....moving forward there is no reason why anyone should worry about RL accept the various bodies that are supposed to look after it.
In most industries (unsuccessful ones) people spend too much time looking at what other people do/earn and not enough time looking after their own issues......RL is the same.

I repeat....if I was in charge of the 3rd/4th largest sporting event in the world with regard to TV figures and associated revenue I would have no issue what a row of pit villages along a motorway and a former penal colony are up to....FFS more people watch the 7's on TV globally than watch NRL and SL combined (if you use the stats that are apparently gospel on the NRL board) icon_rolleyes.gif
Old Darling...you seem like a decent chap........stop with the blind defence of League at the expense of all other sports......because that is more fascist than any immaginary IRB campaign.

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Quote: gutterfax "Old timer...re-read my post, get your head out of the good old days and start living in the "now".
FXck the past....moving forward there is no reason why anyone should worry about RL accept the various bodies that are supposed to look after it.
In most industries (unsuccessful ones) people spend too much time looking at what other people do/earn and not enough time looking after their own issues......RL is the same.

I repeat....if I was in charge of the 3rd/4th largest sporting event in the world with regard to TV figures and associated revenue I would have no issue what a row of pit villages along a motorway and a former penal colony are up to....FFS more people watch the 7's on TV globally than watch NRL and SL combined (if you use the stats that are apparently gospel on the NRL board)
Interesting how sports news where you are is on overdrive about the pit village sport and one of its former practitioners.

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You clearly protesteth too much.

If only unions WC was the 3rd or 4th largest sporting event... 5.1 billion.

icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Keep telling yourself that.

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