There are two main points:
1. The part about insisting on standing up struck me as something that Leeds United do. I've seen those two-celled half-wits do it. That's why I raised it.
2.Football fans are inferior to rugby fans, because they follow an inferior game, cry too much, and can only hunt in packs.

I wouldn't say anything after both sets of hull fans came to the brewery field in south wales last year and caused fights. You have quite a few disgraceful idiots, so i wouldn't slag off other teams fans if i were you

yea every team does but when you go to watch your team against wire all you get is abuse and people gauding you all the game in and out of the ground i remember not so long ago sharpen down pennies golf balls and beer bottles being hurld by wire fans so most sets of fans are angles compared to these lot not all wire fans i may add but alot of idoits

No problems with the Leeds fans today, a few Rhinos were in the wire end, and I didn't see any trouble involving them

The fight kicked off because a Wigan fan got a bit too excited, and a few equally as daft Warrington fans took him up.

There was a riot at a tube station apparantly. Leeds utd were playing down there too so i imagine it was them rather than the rugby lot.
It was hugely annoying as it took us on an hour odd detour after they shut the tube line

Typical Warrington fans, ganging up on one Wigan fan.

Seen it happen before at finals, CC and GF, and I've seen it on trips to Perpignan too - I posted something about it on southstander.com last week - its the "Fekkwit Alchoholic Working Mens Club Trip" effect, put a group of males together on a bus trip to somewhere and they will start drinking before they get on the bus, so thats 6am then - hardly surprising that by kick off time most of them don't give a fekk about the game or those seated around them.

I sat on the row behind such an outing at the 2005 CC final where twenty or thirty of them wouldn't sit down at all, it ended in a fight too because the stewards wouldn't take 80 minutes worth of complaints from other people on board.

And still we try and pretend that RL is a family sport - don't make me laugh.

good post. Alcohol is the root of the problem!

And you would you know because?

Football fan responds aggressively to a post about football fans being aggressive. Ah, the irony!

Yep and jealousy!

I don't see many issues down at Belle Vue these days with mixed terracing apart from when Wigan and Cas visit but personally speaking it's time all grounds had away ends.

It's actually a bit of a joke that rugby league is called a family sport. Some of the language used in some of the songs is outrageous. Yet we want kids to be at the game?

It must happen up north too, but when we had teams visit wales all we hear all match is (sheep shaggers and general abuse towards the welsh.) I know when hull fc came to south wales last year, all their songs were aimed at Hull KR, which i couldn't really understand. Not to mention the trouble that was caused.

Rugby league is going the way of football. It's terribly sad. They should stop with this crap about putting fans in a section of their own, and mix in with the opposition teams. It would stop the idiots that are banned from their home grounds getting together in an away end and kicking off things, making the entire travelling fans look stupid.

Can someone remind me of this glorious uptopian time when everyone went to the game, shook each others hands at the end and had a jolly good time ?

I've pretty much been to every ground in the league at one time or another and you get swearing everywhere. Name me one ground where you don't hear it ...

As for crowd trouble, do a bit of research and you'll find that 'trouble' at games goes right back to the very start of the Northern Union.

I don't think for one minute that the small pockets of opposition supporters that you often see mingled in "the other end" at the CC and GF are there because they have deliberately bought those tickets to cause trouble, rather that organised trips often buy their tickets from the RFL quite a long time in advance before the finalists are known, there shouldn't generally be a problem with this, the problems start when you mix several hours worth of alcohol intake and the "team effect" of an adult male party together - standing in all seater stadiums is the usual spark to the flame and its just not stewarded properly.

I wouldn't want to take a young child into a stadium on a finals day when I have no clue of who is going to be sat around me.