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| Quote: hullkrforever "I know that but Iam just stating that it's a idiotic way for promotion and relagation and just because you have the stadium is stupid these teams like fev etc have nothing to play for were as widnes could finish bottom play a load of part timers save there cash and instantly get into super league because of a stadium and then spend there full cap because they have instant credit for employing part timers'"
It's not only because of a stadium, there's far more to it than that.
Even the Featherstone chairman says they are not ready for Super League. |
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I can understand the scepticism regarding the figures but surely if Widnes were going to fudge the figures to get over £1m then we would post a relatively safe amount rather than £2.5m?
If we were already over the £1m then what's the point in lying about it?
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: Pepe "Plus these are pre-tax profits. If SOC is fiddling the books he is robbing himself of a lot of money that will have to be handed over to the taxman from that £1million profit.'"
As griff said , you'd offset the previous tax loss against the profit , so no sizeable tax bill to pay |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Maximus Decimus "I can understand the scepticism regarding the figures but surely if Widnes were going to fudge the figures to get over £1m then we would post a relatively safe amount rather than £2.5m?
If we were already over the £1m then what's the point in lying about it?'"
because you would look extremely silly posting a million profit on 1.2 million turnover wouldn't you 
Who said you have lied about anything  |
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| Quote: Starbug "Academy doesn't,t count on cap Chris , but with all that turnover and profit you should be ok ![]()
Didn't say it did. I'm talking about players we have brought through and are currently giving a shot. Youngsters like Danny Craven and Tom kelly, these guys take time to settle in to the full squad as they're green.
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| Delighted 
Debt free is the main one! It's not hard to post big profits if your not having to pay loans back etc which is where other clubs books look worse... KR the best exampleof that probably! |
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| Starbug go whindge to someone who cares! |
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| Quote: Maximus Decimus "I can understand the scepticism regarding the figures but surely if Widnes were going to fudge the figures to get over £1m then we would post a relatively safe amount rather than £2.5m?
If we were already over the £1m then what's the point in lying about it?'"
The results will have to be publically available at Companies house before too long, won't they? Makes no sense to lie about the figures.
Does show how stupidly low the championship salary cap is set, though. Widnes are limited to spending less than 15% of turnover on first team wages. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: JonM "The results will have to be publically available at Companies house before too long, won't they? Makes no sense to lie about the figures.
Does show how stupidly low the championship salary cap is set, though. Widnes are limited to spending less than 15% of turnover on first team wages.'"
Except turnover is not necessarily an indication of the strength of a business , I could ( if I had the money ) sponsor a match at Leigh for 1 million pounds , they invoice me and I write out the cheque , then the day after I invoice them for ' management fees ' of 1 million , and they write out me a cheque , result , Leighs turnover goes up by 1 million pounds overnight
Not hard to do |
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Love the way that Widnes get hammered on the VT for the performance of their first team (only 5th in the league! Shocking!), and then a decent (consequential?) financial result is published, get hammered again. Things that make you go hmmm..
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Trashcansinatra "Love the way that Widnes get hammered on the VT for the performance of their first team (only 5th in the league! Shocking!), and then a decent (consequential?) financial result is published, get hammered again. Things that make you go hmmm..'"
Would you like to explain how Widnes having a relatively poor playing season 5 th is consequential to a positive financial result ? |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: J20 "Starbug go whindge to someone who cares! ![]()
what's a whindge ?
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This isn't a sleeping giant, it's a giant! Denis Betts Nov 2010
Twitter: @JoeyViking:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45011.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "Except turnover is not necessarily an indication of the strength of a business , I could ( if I had the money ) sponsor a match at Leigh for 1 million pounds , they invoice me and I write out the cheque , then the day after I invoice them for ' management fees ' of 1 million , and they write out me a cheque , result , Leighs turnover goes up by 1 million pounds overnight
Not hard to do'"
Yes but profit would be 0! Ours is over 1 million still... Fact!  |
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| ambitious chairman,potential decent fan base, good youth system, up to standard stadium,finances in order. ill be surprised if you dont get in next season only thing going against you imo is you do wear some very dodgy colours |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: J20 "Yes but profit would be 0! Ours is over 1 million still... Fact! ![]()
You really haven't been paying attention have you ?
Congratulations to Steve O Connor in his new position at Red Hall , given his record he will be able to sort all the clubs out in a year or so 
Then he can move on to downing street before sorting out world peace and famine at the United Nations
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