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Quote: Asgardian13 "Media coverage used to be even worse. When I came down to London University from Warrington in 1973, the only paper which was guaranteed to print on a monday Sunday's RL results was the socialist rag, the Morning Star! RL coverage has not been too bad in more recent years, although I agree that in the last three or four, it's gone backwards again.'"

That socialist rag used to cause my normally 40 minute paper round to take an hour or so. Rugby League news and results from Division 1 right down to amateur level.

Quote: Asgardian13 "There's no doubt that wendyball is seriously to blame, as even the 'quality' papers are obsessed with it. It's not dissimilar abroad. In Italy they have two daily 'sports' papers which are 85% wendyball with the balance shared between motor racing, basketball, volleyball and athletics. A while ago The Guardian reprinted it's coverage of the 1966 World Cup wendyball final - you know, the one England actually won. The entire thing was about five paragraphs long. Were this to happen today ( thankfully unlikely with the dross that count as pro-wendyballers in this country ) The Guardian would have a 16-page supplement! '"

A rugby league journalist friend was told to 'take the weekend off' following the death of Bobby Robson. In the following days there wasn't enough space for rugby league and a few other sports.

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Quote: Catalancs "Take your Lobby specs off for just a second and stand back. This is a problem for rugby league not just the horrible, nasty Super League.'"

i know its a problem for RL.the only problem with this is..SL is suppose to be dragging the rest of RL along with it but thats not happening is it.
whilst the 'nasty SL,your words ya baby,continues to get more sky money and a few clubs are getting more supporters through the gates,the rest of the pro game [and i include some SL clubs in this]are going nowhere.

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Quote: gutterfax "Hey...you hark back to the good old days all you like when RL was an honest sport in your opinion, but if you have a point to make, it sometimes gets lost if you throw in a personal insult.
Kind of like another of your anti expanionist rants on another thread....

So, I see from this that you take your lead from your chairman/ceo who spat his dummy out when his team didn't get a place at the top table last time around....BITTER is an understatement
its difficult not to throw in insults with people as patronizing as you.

am i harking back to 1995 or just to the inception of SLE?im not sure.

can you bring the rest of that post forward please so that people can judge it in its entirety[then they can slag me off if they choose to.thanks in advance.

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Quote: j.c "i know its a problem for RL.the only problem with this is..SL is suppose to be dragging the rest of RL along with it but thats not happening is it.
whilst the 'nasty SL,your words ya baby,continues to get more sky money and a few clubs are getting more supporters through the gates,the rest of the pro game [and i include some SL clubs in this]are going nowhere.'"

While some clubs are growing, working on advertising, marketing, facilities, community, player standard, others just sit on their backsides expecting some kind of helping hand. I think rugby league at club level is being dragged towards the lower end rather than the top.

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Quote: gutterfax "Hey...you hark back to the good old days all you like when RL was an honest sport in your opinion, but if you have a point to make, it sometimes gets lost if you throw in a personal insult.
Kind of like another of your anti expanionist rants on another thread....

So, I see from this that you take your lead from your chairman/ceo who spat his dummy out when his team didn't get a place at the top table last time around....BITTER is an understatement
because once it was a sport now its a box ticking competition.

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Quote: Catalancs "While some clubs are growing, working on advertising, marketing, facilities, community, player standard, others just sit on their backsides expecting some kind of helping hand. I think rugby league at club level is being dragged towards the lower end rather than the top.'"



Go for it!!!!

Which ones, particularly the advertising/marketing part? The crowds ( growing expotentially icon_wink.gif ) and sponsors are queuing to the rafters for the game arn't they especially the Big brand names and blue chip companies (Barrs anyone?)

Is the same person at the clubs involved in media relations as well?

The player standard one is a good one, anyone got a GB passport? GOOD! sign here lad icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Catalancs "While some clubs are growing, working on advertising, marketing, facilities, community, player standard, others just sit on their backsides expecting some kind of helping hand. I think rugby league at club level is being dragged towards the lower end rather than the top.'"


i'll keep saying this till im blue in the face..SL/SLE cannot have more than four teams from lancs and yorks if its ever to be taken seriously.
there are far to many clubs in SL whos sole purpose is to survive at all costs reguardless of whats happening to the game as a whole.

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Quote: j.c "i'll keep saying this till im blue in the face.........'"

Why stop there? icon_cool.gif

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When one of our national sides are in action the press will always devote more space to them. The biggest mistake that was made after Super League was created was to completely neglect the international game and to give the rights to Sky. International games need the biggest exposure and for me that means going back to Saturday afternoons on the BBC for every England home game. If we can get more people attending and watching internationals on TV, even if they have no interest in the club game, sponsors and broadcasters will want to come on board and then the media will take notice.

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Exactly, why RL gets less National media exposure:
1. The RFL do not invest enough in their media team
2. SL clubs do not work hard enough to get SL players and action on TV ads through 3rd party sponsorship deals
3. Int RL is not on FTA
4. Our players do not have enough public and media profile
5. We are very bad at actualy telling everyone what a great game we have
6. We don't do the work for the papers, as said unless its girly soccer they aren't going to spend resources covering it so we have to do it for them.
7. The media is run by RU types
8.SL and NRL are not on FTA TV

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Quote: j.c "the championship 'not long ago'was the fourth most followed league in europe,so i would say that leagues doing ok.

by the way i didnt say RL was a dieing sport.i said two thirds of its member club were dieing on there booty and 7 or 8 clubs in SL are living from hand to mouth.'"


Quote: j.c "yes, football,cricket and union.'"


It's been posted on another thread that not one Football League club made a profit last year. rlThis articlerlshows that in the 07/08 year, only 2 clubs in the PL made a profit.

rlThis articlerl from 2009 says "with Gloucester, Leicester and Northampton the only Premiership clubs to make a profit last season".

rlThis articlerl suggests that the only cricket clubs that make a profit are those that get Test matches.

So in what way is RL any different to any other sport?

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Quote: Billinge_Lump "It's been posted on another thread that not one Football League club made a profit last year. rlThis articlerlshows that in the 07/08 year, only 2 clubs in the PL made a profit.

rlThis articlerl from 2009 says "with Gloucester, Leicester and Northampton the only Premiership clubs to make a profit last season".

rlThis articlerl suggests that the only cricket clubs that make a profit are those that get Test matches.

So in what way is RL any different to any other sport?'"


i think the differance between those sports clubs and RL clubs is that there is so much more money slushing around in those sports that they can run at a loss without it affecting them to much.unlike most RL clubs.

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Quote: j.c "i think the differance between those sports clubs and RL clubs is that there is so much more money slushing around in those sports that they can run at a loss without it affecting them to much.unlike most RL clubs.'"


They survive for the same reason that RL clubs do, someone is willing to cover the losses. I think that most professional sport is in the same boat, whilst RL may not be run incredibly well, it isn't the complete basket case that some would make out.

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Quote: j.c "i think the differance between those sports clubs and RL clubs is that there is so much more money slushing around in those sports that they can run at a loss without it affecting them to much.unlike most RL clubs.'"

Portsmouth? Birmingham RU?

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Quote: Catalancs "Portsmouth? Birmingham RU?'"


i take it they've gone bust?

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