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| I wonder how many HKR fans defending their rights to try their best to avoid complying with the spirit of the quota have criticised Wigans attempt to circumvent the salary cap?
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| 5th SL season and 10 overseas players in the first 17. Great stuff. Just out of interest, when can we expect Rovers to stop seeking multiple exemptions? 5 years is clearly not enough, so, 10?
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| Quote: Dave K. "Hull will have 6 overseas players next season, about on par with most other teams.
Whats your point again?'"
Will Rovers be operating within the rules? YES or NO?
If the RFL are happy with it thats all that matters and as for the argument that we don't beat the aussies because of Hull KR it was nice to see our english players getting a run out last week
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| Quote: MrPhilb "Will Rovers be operating within the rules? YES or NO?'"
Will rovers be operating within the spirit of the rules? YES or NO?
pathetic justification.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Will rovers be operating within the spirit of the rules? YES or NO?
pathetic justification.'"
Jesus wept what does that matter, we are either operating within the rules or we aren't.
I couldn't care less as to whether we should have a conscience about it, if its allowed we should naturally look into that avenue
Our Junior developement program suffered because of the years of mismanagement, if you expect it to produce players to compete at the very top of the international game already then you are deluded.
And anyway you can complain when we actually field ten overseas players instead of moaning about something that might not even happen
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| Quote: MrPhilb "Jesus wept what does that matter, we are either operating within the rules or we aren't.
I couldn't care less as to whether we should have a conscience about it, if its allowed we should naturally look into that avenue'" what an appalling attitude, what an appalling disservice to young british RL players.
putting your own club before the future of the game, you should be embarrassed.
Quote: MrPhilb "Our Junior developement program suffered because of the years of mismanagement, if you expect it to produce players to compete at the very top of the international game already then you are deluded. '" no, i expect you to suffer the consequences of your years of mismanagement. Not seek exepmtions to the detriment of other clubs and to the young players of this country to cover up for it.
also how long do you want special treatment? you are in your 5th year and getting worse.
Quote: MrPhilb "And anyway you can complain when we actually field ten overseas players instead of moaning about something that might not even happen'" you already have too many. This isnt a new thing, just what is already pretty poor, getting worse.
the funny thing is, with all these exemptions, and with the poor facilities and poor youth development, you are still millions in debt and still a pretty poor team which has achieved nothing.
Wouldnt it be poetic justice if your 'living the dream' ala leeds united brought you less success than even the very little they had? at least they put money in to developing youngsters
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| The RFL have set out rules, if we go to the RFL and they state its ok then that is good enough for me.
We did suffer for years due to our mismanagement. It was called the national leagues and we earned our way to where we are now.
At least we have discovered that we can't compete with the Aussies because of Hull KR (Thanks Hull FC Fans) and that Hull KR are the only club in the Super League to have debts (Cheers Smokey, Spot on as usual)
My priority is Hull KR, if we are operating within RFL guidelines and they are happy with it then that is good enough for me and i'm glad it upsets you and gets your back up. Quite clearly the possibility of Rovers having so many overseas players will cause the world to implode upon itself
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| Quote: MrPhilb "The RFL have set out rules, if we go to the RFL and they state its ok then that is good enough for me. '" which as a i said isa pathetic attitude and an appalling disservice to the young players of this country.
Quote: MrPhilb "We did suffer for years due to our mismanagement. It was called the national leagues and we earned our way to where we are now.'" no, you spent money you didnt have on players you didnt produce. There isnt much 'earning' going on there
Quote: MrPhilb "At least we have discovered that we can't compete with the Aussies because of Hull KR (Thanks Hull FC Fans) and that Hull KR are the only club in the Super League to have debts (Cheers Smokey, Spot on as usual)'" nobody has said this, Which says a lot for your faith in your own argument.
Quote: MrPhilb "My priority is Hull KR, if we are operating within RFL guidelines and they are happy with it then that is good enough for me and i'm glad it upsets you and gets your back up. Quite clearly the possibility of Rovers having so many overseas players will cause the world to implode upon itself'" or maybe it will just mean other clubs now need to go and get another overseas player so that they dont lose out on a playoff spot to hull kr, and another young british player doesnt get a shot, doesnt get to develop their potential, and drifts out of the game and it damages the international game, which means less money coming into the sport, less money filtering down to HKR and maybe they go bust? and then fans like you can moan how it just isnt fair
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| If we were breaking any rules you'd have a point but we aren't so you don't but i'm sure it won't stop your pathetic little bitter rant.
Anyway its all hypothetical as the club haven't commented and neither have the RFL, it's another delightful story from the local rag that has put your knickers in a twist.
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| Quote: MrPhilb "If we were breaking any rules you'd have a point but we aren't so you don't but i'm sure it won't stop your pathetic little bitter rant.
Anyway its all hypothetical as the club haven't commented and neither have the RFL, it's another delightful story from the local rag that has put your knickers in a twist.'" By virtue of being granted a license, Hull KR have a duty to the game and to the young players of this country. There is no justification for avoiding this duty, it is shameful self interest.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "By virtue of being granted a license, Hull KR have a duty to the game and to the young players of this country. There is no justification for avoiding this duty, it is shameful self interest.'"
The chairman is a shameful self interested person!! he will be the ruin of that club, believe me
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| Superleague shouldn't have two Hull teams in the competition and i know which one i'd kick out
IMO HKR playing that many johnny foreigners is a disgrace
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "By virtue of being granted a license, Hull KR have a duty to the game and to the young players of this country. There is no justification for avoiding this duty, it is shameful self interest.'"
Who would look after our interests if we didn't do it ourselves?
Look, you like this rule, so you think it should be followed in spirit as well by the rulebook. You dislike the salary cap as, in Smokey World, Wigan and Leeds should be allowed to selflessly sign up all the best players, creating a massively unbalanced competition for the benefit of all. Fair enough, we all have our preferences. However, you so clearly dislike Hull KR and have been so consistently and wilfully blind to our circumstances, that your opinion has absolutely no traction with us. In fact the opposite has become the case. I've got some reservations about this, but your posts only serve to diminish them.
Anyway - the charge that re-signing Galea, for expample, would be at the expense of youngster such as Scott Taylor is misplaced. We know we are screwed if we don't get more players coming through and becoming senior squad members - the squad will remain thin, with a disproportinately high number of kids there making up the numbers. To add depth we need more Welhams and Watts - and ultimately some Sinfield/Cunningham-type figures.
The real choice we face now is who will fill our fed-trained spots. Should it be fed-qualified Aussies like Galea or would ooc mid/late-career Brits complement our club-trained youngsters better. Lee Radford and Michael Worrincy are the examples I've used elsewhere. There is a genuine debate to be had here. Should we discriminate in favour of Brits and against EU-qualified antipodeans? Obviously we'd have to pretend that we weren't, as it is illegal, but there is a part of me that'd like us to have more good, experienced British players in the squad. They just aren't available, though (clubs are selfishly hoarding them). Or there are so few that their scarcity boosts the amount they cost to prohibitive levels. Perversely, if you can find a quota spot, antipodeans look more attractive than ever.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "The chairman is a shameful self interested person!! he will be the ruin of that club, believe me
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