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Quote: hindyscrack "While the numbers going through the turnstiles is important, so is the ground itself in being able to GROW your market.

Why would a casual fan want to go and stand on the terraces of Knowsley Rd? I am an ardant league fan, but knowsley rd is the biggest dump of ground I have ever been to. Even I will not return in the future, when I head up north I would rather head to the DW or KC in future.

What hope do we have gathering new fans in stadia that belong in the 50's?'"


If your going to set a criteria I'd set a min criteria of:

min 12,000 capacity
50-50 seating and standing min
all stands covered
good disabled access
decent toilets, bars and food
easy access/parking

that's all you need in a SL ground generally!

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Quote: tb "We're keeping a close eye out for you and Starbug nipping over the Pennines with your great crested newts to plant on the site.'"


Us flatcappers look after our own, so if I can be of help ask. icon_wink.gif
One word of advice is that when they first leaflet and call a meeting turn up en masse, showing support for the plan. Their next meeting is behind closed doors with Swampy not taking up the invitation for your meeting, at which point you will be asked a question about migrating Canadian Geese flying into the floodlights icon_confused.gif

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Quote: maurice "Us flatcappers look after our own, so if I can be of help ask.
Well the site is just a barren landscape at the moment pretty much. AFAIK there aren't any trees for swampy and his cronies to cry about.

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Quote: maurice "Us flatcappers look after our own, so if I can be of help ask.
That was one of the funniest things I heard that night, although I thought the old dear put it like 'they won't be able to find the water with the stadium in the way'

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Quote: maurice "Submit detailed plans, swampy and pals object 2-3 years through the courts, lose SL franchise, dont build ground .............. hope that doesnt happen, but after helping fight Swampy and the nimby's at Leigh it will be a long fight.'"


Considering it's going to be built on a coal mining site, I don't see any reason why Swampy should object.

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Quote: number 6 "both teams are relying on their councils for land and funding, why do they want new grounds i wonder?


not worth much if it costs them a franchise is it?'"


Not true in wakeys case (i hvae no idea about saints) wakefield council have publically stated they will not give one penny towards wakefields (as well as castlefords and featherstones) ground.

I can see what cherrydevils getting at, it is quite often those who were lucky enough to have a local council willing to build a new ground for them (or those that simply moved in with football/union) that are the first to critiscise older grounds.

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Quote: Fully "Considering it's going to be built on a coal mining site, I don't see any reason why Swampy should object.'"


Unless he has the ability to travel in time back to 1869...

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I hope Cas go for a castle design for the new stadium. That would look smart if done right.

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Quote: JB Down Under "If your going to set a criteria I'd set a min criteria of

50-50 seating/standing

So you'd bin Wigan and Hull?

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Quote: Standee "50-50 seating/standing

So you'd bin Wigan and Hull?'"


You missed the ' min ' on the end meaning at least 50 % seating of the 12,000 capacity

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I don't know if I'm actually allowed to say this as a Wigan fan, but Knowsley Road is a good ground. It would be fantastic ground if they rebuilt the Main stand and the Dunriding Lane end (or even put a roof on it).

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Quote: JB Down Under "The whole ground criteria should be binned. What's most important is how many people you get in a ground not how many empty plastic seats you have!'"


Exactly right.

I'm a Barrow fan and most people describe our ground as a dump (or something similar). We do own our ground, but it has seen better days - especially compared to 'new' stadia.

However, selling it and sharing a council owned ground will probably never happen. Mainly because there have been many, many clubs who went down the route of selling up with the best intentions at the time, and now lead a nomadic existence. Great traditional clubs like Oldham, Hunslet and Swinton are charged a fortune to lease a home stadium and are regularly told that the 'borrowed' stadium is unavailable.

Sheffield are moving from a soul-less athletics stadium to a soul-less all seater football stadium, Doncaster can't afford to play at their new stadium, Wigan had to play a 'home' game at Widnes etc etc etc.

Craven Park (Barrow) will be redeveloped up to SL standard at a fraction fo the cost of a new stadium. And it won't mean selling the family silver.

For me, the only things that matter about a stadium are:
1) Is it safe
2) Can you see the pitch
3) Does it have satisfactory facilities
4) Is it full

If you get the first 3, then I'm happy. If you get the 4th I'm delighted. A game lasts 80 minutes after all. What else do you need ?????

Ask the Wigan fans about their visit to Barrow in the Cup. A superb day with a superb atmosphere. Everyone could see the match, everyone survived the day and anyone who wanted a drink got one. OK, the toilets were an issue ( icon_lol.gif ), but that can be fixed relatively easily.

Selling up is folly. Wakefield, Cas and Salford should think very carefully. If they ever dropped out of SL, they would have the use of a nice new stadium, but would have very little else.

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Quote: SRC "Exactly right.

I'm a Barrow fan and most people describe our ground as a dump (or something similar). We do own our ground, but it has seen better days - especially compared to 'new' stadia.

However, selling it and sharing a council owned ground will probably never happen. Mainly because there have been many, many clubs who went down the route of selling up with the best intentions at the time, and now lead a nomadic existence. Great traditional clubs like Oldham, Hunslet and Swinton are charged a fortune to lease a home stadium and are regularly told that the 'borrowed' stadium is unavailable.

Sheffield are moving from a soul-less athletics stadium to a soul-less all seater football stadium, Doncaster can't afford to play at their new stadium, Wigan had to play a 'home' game at Widnes etc etc etc.

Craven Park (Barrow) will be redeveloped up to SL standard at a fraction fo the cost of a new stadium. And it won't mean selling the family silver.

For me, the only things that matter about a stadium are:
1) Is it safe
2) Can you see the pitch
3) Does it have satisfactory facilities
4) Is it full

If you get the first 3, then I'm happy. If you get the 4th I'm delighted. A game lasts 80 minutes after all. What else do you need ?????

Ask the Wigan fans about their visit to Barrow in the Cup. A superb day with a superb atmosphere. Everyone could see the match, everyone survived the day and anyone who wanted a drink got one. OK, the toilets were an issue (
Stadia is alot more important than you see it to be.

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