Try staying on topic guys and not making this a Leigh relegation / Toulouse's purpose in the Championship-type thread please.

Thats the way it's going chief.
Only alternative is if the Chp receives decent funding and there's enough strong clubs left there to create a valid D1 without it becoming a feeder league

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When the RFL Announced that Toulouse were entering the Championship every single media statement included a reference to them ' preparing to enter SL in 2012 ' , very few if any mentioned anything else



No I stated that the Championships [ both , I have always stipulated that ] desperatley need money to survive and prosper , be that money given to the clubs or spent by the RFL on those clubs , what exactly do the Championship 1 clubs get out of Toulouse being in the Championship ?

So stop making things up that I have not said

So Toulouse being relegated is me ' Forcing ' them onto smaller clubs , every sporting competition has a large element of luck




Salford had those players already signed up before their relegation was confirmed [ you know this so stop trying to look stupid ] , however as I posted [ but you ignored ] , the RFL stated that Toulouse would have 5 quota spots because they had already signed 5 players , but they subsequently only announced these players 2 or 3 months later , how convienient ?





Yes which has as much credence as yours



Sorry you've lost me there , what money ?

Club loyalty coming to the fore here, but Wakefield have had just one continuous tenure in SL, avoided relegation (celebrating mediocrity, yes, but it is an achievement given limited resources that the club has had), and improved year on year since JK's appointment. Stadium and financial issues (not exclusive to our club) aside, I don't understand why so many people suggest Wakefield should be booted out of SL when it is the likes of Salford and Castleford that have been up and down between the leagues over the years.

As for Wigan, three consecutive play off semi-finals and a CC semi suggest that they're bringing something to the competition and may be able to go one better soon. I hope you were joking with that one.

One of my main concerns with bringing in more French sides to SL is attendances. We've got Harlequins, Crusaders, Huddersfield and Catalans who bring miniscule away followings which can't be doing much good for the coffers at "heartland" clubs. While expansion is obviously important for the growth of the sport, attendances are going to suffer (eg. Wakefield's estimated revenue in 2009 wasn't achieved, definitely not helped by the recession. Nor the quarter of home games that mustered even smaller crowds due to no away following). Games with a small away following generally have less atmosphere and don't advertise the greatest game in the best light. Difficult.

What a funny statement

Come on, reduced away support is no reason for anti-expansionism. Clubs should be able to rely on their own fans to generate revenue. Lack of away support is a nonsensical and pathetic argument.

SL should be full of mediocre heartland clubs and nobody else ....

the real shame about Les Cats is how they achieved more in 3 or 4 years than quite a few heartland clubs in over 100.

both toulose and paris have to be included next time. the RFL have to find the finances for it, be it via offering Sky another game to televise or whatever.

the opportunity to so quickly revive RL in france again is not to be missed

we would all benefit from this.

people still talk about the champagne RL played by the french in the 60s against australia

really? I'd say HKR and Les Cats having worked there way up over a number of years have been more succesful than the likes of Quins and Crusaders (so far) and before them Paris & Gateshead.

Les Cats are a heartland club you kno[ibh[/iead.

then why do all you flat cap dunces decry toulose