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Quote: Barnacle Bill "Maybe our caps aren't as flat as we thought they were!

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Is this going to turn into a Boca/River Plate argument?
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Quote: Starbug "Yes it is now called the Champions LEAGUE , but it is not a genuine League competition , It was changed for financial reasons and has devalued the winning of individual country's premier competitions'"


So it's a league but not a league, for champions who are not champions? The sport is a laughing stock!!!!!
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Quote: Richie "So it's a league but not a league, for champions who are not champions? The sport is a laughing stock!!!!!'"


No it's a cup , in a league you play everybody in it , in a cup you are drawn against some of the other clubs in it , they might call it a league , but it's not

And yes teams that are not ' champions ' play in it
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Quote: Starbug "In a league you play everybody in it.'"

Like Super League?

Quote: Starbug "And yes teams that are not ' champions ' play in it'"

What a joke! That'll never work!
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Quote: Catalancs "Like Super League?


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Yes , so why a play off , or are you not paying attention , as that is what this whole thread is about
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Quote: Starbug "No it's a cup , in a league you play everybody in it , in a cup you are drawn against some of the other clubs in it , they might call it a league , but it's not

And yes teams that are not ' champions ' play in it'"


So it's a cup but it's called a league? And it's called the "champions" league but you don't have to be a champion to be in it? That sport is a laughing stock.
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Quote: Richie "So it's a cup but it's called a league? And it's called the "champions" league but you don't have to be a champion to be in it? That sport is a laughing stock.'"


It certainly is

Except the actual league parts that virtually all country's have
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Quote: christopher "So what you mean is, every sport apart from Association Football (and then not all of the time) uses a playoff system?
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And what about the Football League's promotion and relegation system, where the top two teams are autmatically promoted and the next four PLAY OFF for the remaining spot ?

Meaning that a team that potentially finishes 7th could jump somone who finished 3rd ...

I don't see too many soccer fans bleating about it, apart from Phil Neal when it happend to him.
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Quote: AdmiralHanson "And what about the Football League's promotion and relegation system, where the top two teams are autmatically promoted and the next four PLAY OFF for the remaining spot ?

Meaning that a team that potentially finishes 7th could jump somone who finished 3rd ...

I don't see too many soccer fans bleating about it, apart from Phil Neal when it happend to him.'"


Promotion and relegation, now there's an idea! eusa_think.gif
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Its very interesting the different mindsets.

I cant imagine wanting anything more than that one big game, that one last challenge, a chance to perform under pressure. The winner get the trophy, the loser leaves the country.

How can you not want that!
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Quote: Starbug "I said ' world class sport ' , there is only one , and in most if not all those competitions they use a league system to decide their Champions'"


what about basketball? Cricket? Ice Hockey? all have a global presence

what about football in the US? Australia? Brazil?

maybe it would be easier for you to list all the major competitions, besides top tier European Association football that use a straight league format
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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "rlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-league/2009/10/03/wilkin-stop-this-play-off-hype-115875-21718885/rl

Are there any other players out there who can string a sentance together or is Wilkin the only rent-a-gob we have?

Sample stupidity this week:



Does he think that Saints' were champions they past couple of years then?
You should read HKRs former Wigan fullback Shaun Briscoe in the League Weekly. He praises everything so much, he is embarrassing. He is the polar opposite of Jons views: maybe it's a HKR thing, as that is where we signed Mr Wilkin from. icon_twisted.gif
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Quote: Starbug "Yes , so why a play off , or are you not paying attention , as that is what this whole thread is about'"


Because under the current fixture list teams do not have identical schedules so the league table is not a fair reflection of who has been the best team over the 27 weekly rounds.

Hence the only valid way to decide the champions under the current system is by a play-off between the top teams over those weekly rounds.

If the fixture list was 26 rounds home and away then there may be more of an argument for disposing of the playoffs.
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